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Offline spacemonkoi

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found a way to get some new games to work! [Discussion]
« on: January 03, 2006, 08:03:55 PM »
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but i thought this might be of use to some people. Finally got my neo flash 2 working with the release of menu V0.4 and I've already started getting greedy.
I noticed that some games that didnt work, would make the LED light on the back would show a constant full light.
following some experimentation I found that if I opened the games with NDStool and then re-built them they would work, or at least work more...I have got futher into tony hawks american skateland than before, and rayman DS seems to be working well now.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2006, 10:22:17 AM by bruceg »

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2006, 01:50:09 AM »
How Can I use this ndstool?
And one more thing. Are you playing tony howk or any wi-fi games using flashmeV6.Because I didn`t upgrade my frimware.It is V4 and I want to play mario cart and all wi-fi games without using wi-fi.(I want to play in single mode).

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2006, 10:19:38 AM »
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How Can I use this ndstool?

thats wat i wanna know

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2006, 10:35:58 AM »
The way to use the ndstool was described by esujo :


 Hi guys,

I have Castlevania and Viewtiful Joe working with my mk2!!!!!. You just need the ndstool.exe: Create a folder and put ndstool along with the rom that you want to fix. You just need to unmount the rom and compress it again. Open the ms-dos console, go to the directory where you have both files and type:

ndstool -x Romname.nds -9 arm9.bin -7 arm7.bin -y9 y9.bin -y7 y7.bin -d data -y overlay -t banner.bin -h header.bin

Now you got some new files: the rom has been decompressed.

To compress it again, please type:
ndstool -c NewRomName.nds -9 arm9.bin -7 arm7.bin -y9 y9.bin -y7 y7.bin -d data -y overlay -t banner.bin -h header.bin

You have now a new rom with less Mb than the original one.

It is just the regular procedure to rip a rom, but taking away no files.

I have just tried these two roms and it worked!!! (although I had to format my sd card first - it needed defrag).

Try some more games and tell us which ones are working using this method.

More info: http://www.elotrolado.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=457950




It works in many roms :) :) :) :) :)
I take a pair of hours to make a program that make it to many roms at time and in a easy way. if you want to test it  i upload it in:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IR6ULC6V


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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2006, 11:44:10 PM »
Thx for the software ^^! well i will post results here:

Using this i have this results:

- Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow(E) Work

- Kirby canvas (E): Work ^^

- Project rub (E): Don't work

- DBZ supersonic warriors 2 (U) : don't work

- Naruto rpg 2: Chidori vs Rasengan (J) : don't work

- Advance Wars DS: Work slowly

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« Last Edit: January 06, 2006, 03:24:36 AM by vilifuu »

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2006, 01:36:07 AM »
ghe this is annoying i cant get any files out of my .nds files. Cant decompress it anyone got an idea so that it will work? I tried everything i could think of. SUGGESTIONS PLEASE! :'(

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2006, 01:48:45 AM »
Hi GOMACHO,
thanks for your prog, it's really a good idea, since the word cpread that decmpressed/recompressed games with ndstool do run /run better.
I have been trying ndstool and it's true, some games do run now, while others used to freeze after a little while now seem to work.
Your LIMPIADOR though doesn't seem to work here.
I did add a few roms and then clicked the button to decompress/compress but LIMPIADOR only seem to duplicate all my roms into his directory. The file size remines exaclty the same, therefore I assume that no decompression has happened.
When I manually use ndstool I always get a slightly smaller rom at the end.
Am I doing something wrong ? My Spanish is pretty good, but I don't understand something:
At the end LIMPIADOR says that the roms are clear redy to be decompressed, does it mean that  I have to click the decompress.compress button again ? Because if I do some error happens and the application stops.
Also what do I do with the folder BORRABLE ? Do I just delete all of it ?
Thanks

By the way ,my new discoverys:
Here is a list of games that run from the SD card(sandisk 1G) after being decompressed/recompressed manually with NDSTool:



- Kirby Canvas works after ndstool for me, and it's really good!!
- WarioWare used to work with menu 0.3, now  it won't work for me even after ndstool
- Metroid Pinball starts after ndstool, but very slowly and doesn't respond to controls(can't start the game)
- Ridge racer/Need for speed2 still don't work after ndstool
- Mario & Luigi doesn't work even after ndstool(it never did for me)
- Golden Eye used to freeze in the middle of the first mission, now after ndstool seems to work, but I didn't play much longer,I still have to test more.
- Bubble Bubble used to be malfunctional, i.e. the classic version used to work, while the new one didn't.After ndstool I can play both version now !!
- Snow Board Kids and Meteos still don't work.
- Viewutiful Joe WORKS!!(a little slower sometimes)

That's it for the moment. Everything else seem to work.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2006, 02:00:53 AM by q_armando »
Quote from: scrotor on January 05, 2006, 10:32:35 PM
"You are a dildohead......
......I had a few issues getting up and running, so ask away, I'll do my best to help you, even tho' you're being a @#$% cheap ass pirate.
"

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2006, 03:55:38 AM »
You can also use DSLazy (google for it) wich comes with a GUI, but you do need .NET framework (free). Using DSLazy is way easier then just use command lines..

What can also help is formatting your MMC/SD everytime you edit the content of the card. It does for me :)

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2006, 04:23:49 AM »
Yeh I know about DSlazy, i tried it but I did not want to bother with NET installation.
It's easy to open a dos shell and do it from there with ndstool,once you write it down for one game you can repeat the string for each game, but I was looking forward to LIMPIADOR because it can handle many ROMS at the same time.
As I understand there is no reason not to re-pack every single roms,it seems there are no side effects.If Lipiador works, it would became part of the daily routine to re-pack the games before transfer them to the SD card.
But probably we will see some compatibility improvements over the next few releases of the boot menu, which might make this step unnecessary.
And I do format my SD card quite often. I found out that it's easier and faster to transfer the content of the SD card to the PC, format the card and retransfer all the files to the card then actually try to defrag the SD card.It could take forever and the results aren't always that great.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2006, 04:26:50 AM by q_armando »
Quote from: scrotor on January 05, 2006, 10:32:35 PM
"You are a dildohead......
......I had a few issues getting up and running, so ask away, I'll do my best to help you, even tho' you're being a @#$% cheap ass pirate.
"

Offline gomacho

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2006, 04:27:04 AM »
Hello,

Let me explain how the program works

Make sure the ndstool direction are in the edit in the top of the program (by default is the same folder that the exe file, but if ndstool isnot here the edit will appear in white).

First you have to press the button "agregar" in order to select the roms do you gonna to "limpiar"

second you have to select the destination folder of the new version of the roms in the small tree component in the rigth side of the second list (in top of the button comprimir/descomprimir). Make sure isnot the same directory where the original roms are. And at last press "descomprimir/comprimir". When the process finish the last mesage only says that all works and that the folder "borrable" have the descompress files. You can delete it folder (borrable).

In my pc reduce the size in all roms, they appear in the destination folder that you chose with the name of the original roms, q_armando maybe you didnot search in this (destination) folder. You donot need to push two times the descomprimir/comprimir button.

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2006, 05:10:07 AM »
q_armando,

if in the folder borrador are some sub-directories and files i am almost sure that limpiador work in your pc. Search the games in the destination directory that you chose, or try again after select a empty destination directory and search the new roms with the same name as the original ones. Remember the destination directory must be diferent to the directory in where the roms are.

In my case i maked work this roms (with the v0.3 menu) :
Feel the magic (U) (sometimes freeze)
Ridge Racer
Wario (U)
Trace memory
Castlevania
« Last Edit: January 06, 2006, 05:23:41 AM by gomacho »

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2006, 05:28:04 AM »
Note: Using menu 0.4

Works
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0036 - Daigasso! Band Brothers (J)(GBXR).nds (a few sound glitches in menus but not in game)
0121 - Castlevania - Dawn of Sorrow (U)(Legacy).nds (slow intro)
0060 - Meteos (U)(Lube).nds
0163 - Viewtiful Joe - Double Trouble! (U)(Legacy).nds
0088 - Advance Wars - Dual Strike (U)(Lube).nds
Electroplankton_USA_NDS-MODE7

Not Working
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0001 - Electroplankton (J)(Trashman).nds (freezes after selecting play mode)
0136 - Super Princess Peach (J)(Caravan).nds
0205 - SBK - Snowboard Kids (U)(MODE7).nds
0174 - Tony Hawk's American Sk8land (U)(Mode 7).nds (freezes when entering name)
0216 - Mario and Luigi - Partners in Time (U)(SCZ).nds
0005 - WarioWare Touched! (U)(Trashman).nds

will update as I try more
« Last Edit: January 11, 2006, 02:26:19 PM by angelfly »

Offline spacemonkoi

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2006, 07:44:41 AM »
Glad to see others are having sucess with this method, also nice to have my first ever post sticky'd   ;D for those of you who have yet to find ndstool I've uploaded here http://www.geocities.com/snoochiez_uk/nds_rip.zip I'll give you a quick guide to using it without the command prompt:

1. create a new directory and put you nds rom file in it and rename it "orig.nds".

2. decompress nds tool into the same directory it should create the following:

_dump.bat
_pack.bat
ndstool.exe

3. run _dump.bat this will unpack the nds rom.

4. run _pack.bat this will create a new rom called orig_pack.nds rename this to what ever you like eg.. mariokart.nds

5. you can now delete everything apart from your renamed rom file. you should now be able to copy it to the memory card and run as normal.

ps. I would recommend that you format the memory card each time you add new roms as this seems to increase compatibilty as well.

hope this is of some use to some people.

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2006, 10:03:13 AM »
Hello,

some people said that the news roms are equal to the previous.

In my pc the program works perfect but i suspect what would happend, for this reason i make some adjusts in order to avoid this bug.

The new version (in english) is in:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I6OACJ66

I hope this program make easier the things for some people

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Re: found a way to get some new games to work!
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2006, 02:19:54 PM »
sorry but i still dont get how to make nds tool work :-\ to confusing