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Title: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Dr.neo on August 22, 2006, 12:42:08 AM
we got 25 PSP game enter finally! i don't believe it! before i think PSP just have EMU only  :-\

[PSP GAME] ThrottleX 0.3  --- by AnonymousTipster
[PSP GAME] R-Gear by Froggies Prods & TiTAN Handheld Division --- by shazz
[PSP GAME] Droplets 1.5  --- by drakonite
[PSP GAME] Legacy -> xGrid Entry  --- by sg57
[PSP GAME] PSPirates v3  --- by MexicanSnake
[PSP GAME] Sandbox by PSMonkey  --- by psmonkey
[PSP GAME] Quak  --- by xigency
[PSP GAME] Meltdown v0.5 for PSP  --- by drakonite
[PSP GAME] Arc Angel 0.1 Full Shoot-em Up Game  --- by Remi59
[PSP GAME] Shining Fantasy RPG Engine Preview 1 --- by framerate
[PSP GAME] Contest Entry: DYOX --- by ColdPie
[PSP GAME] The Stroke of Link --- by Yodajr
[PSP GAME] My Submission: CSpsp (2D) --- by nataku92
[PSP GAME] Reactor v1.0  --- by Kagato
[PSP GAME] Lua Wormz - Wormz game for psp  --- by Zion
[PSP GAME] Zombie Escape v1.1  --- by LMelior
[PSP GAME] Ceres 1.3  --- by edepot
[PSP GAME] luminex  --- by pointbat
[PSP GAME] TrigWars --- by 71M
[PSP GAME] FRAG v0.04b (overhead shooter) --- by Soulkiller
[PSP GAME] PSPTACTICS --- by davgav
[PSP GAME] Earth Invaders 0 : Before the attack --- by smealum
[PSP GAME] Move it --- by 2flower
[PSP GAME] Escape  --- by taichi1082
[PSP GAME] GetTheStars my game  --- by saulotmalo

just vote favorite now  ::sm-18.gif::
but remember you can vote one psp game only.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: wraggster on August 22, 2006, 01:10:04 AM
some good entries this year, going to be hard to judge :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Zereox on August 22, 2006, 01:21:38 AM
Framerate you got my Vote. ::sm-21.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: xiringu on August 22, 2006, 01:25:01 AM
there's some really good stuff in here.

I just hope that "some" of them don't end up only like tech demos, and become some nice, playable games
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: FlipzFlow33 on August 22, 2006, 01:32:44 AM
framerate's got my vote; always looking forward to a homebrew RPG on psp. still waiting for others such as Future Resurrection.  ::sm-01::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: motz on August 22, 2006, 01:48:00 AM
So many good entries, I'm struggling to pick! :(
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: AnonymousTipster on August 22, 2006, 02:27:22 AM
There are so many good titles, I know it's going to be tough for me. If you don't know which one to pick, pick ThrottleX. Please  ::sm-29.gif::

Seeing as we shouldn't vote for our own, I picked Sandbox....because I like things that use the physics engine I ported  :D
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: framerate on August 22, 2006, 02:35:57 AM
AnonymousTipster - Now that I see you're still updating throttleX I want to download it and install it. You always spoke kinda negative of it back in the day (it seemed) but I was always impressed since you're one of the first 3-d homebrew that was widely downloaded!

I really didn't expect to get any votes since my game is pretty primitive at this point.. I just wanted a deadline that forced me to actually release something heh :). But I definitely appreciate any votes or kind words I get! There's always so much negativity in the homebrew scenes... (ever been to xbox? lol)

I don't know if I am even allowed to vote, but between ThrottleX, RGear and TrigWars it'd be a hard choice!
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: AnonymousTipster on August 22, 2006, 02:38:15 AM
I think that's the choice a lot of people are having to make.
ThrottleX is the most original of those three though, and technically, one of the rules was to be original, even if it was an update.

EDIT: How long will the poll be open?
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 22, 2006, 02:45:33 AM
Please try as many of the games as you can before voting.  I'm through about a third of them and I already despair at not only the chances of me winning, but the thought of choosing between them.  :(  The production quality of R-Gear is phenomenal and for a while I had to keep stealing the PSP back from my wife while working on my game, because she wouldn't stop playing Droplets v1.0. :)

Anyway, congratulations and kudos to all the developers, there is a lot of great stuff here!
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: $n!pR on August 22, 2006, 02:48:18 AM
Please try as many of the games as you can before voting.  I'm through about a third of them and I already despair at not only the chances of me winning, but the thought of choosing between them.  :(  The production quality of R-Gear is phenomenal and for a while I had to keep stealing the PSP back from my wife while working on my game, because she wouldn't stop playing Droplets v1.0. :)

Anyway, congratulations and kudos to all the developers, there is a lot of great stuff here!

R-Gear...Is that the game that uses all those ripped sprites?
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 22, 2006, 02:53:58 AM
Quote from: $n!pR
R-Gear...Is that the game that uses all those ripped sprites?
  It might be, but I never played R-type so they're new to me :D

You're right though, I might to have to come up with some kind of scoring system for myself, and originality would probably be one criterion.  Hmmmm... ::sm-22.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: $n!pR on August 22, 2006, 02:57:31 AM
Quote from: $n!pR
R-Gear...Is that the game that uses all those ripped sprites?
  It might be, but I never played R-type so they're new to me :D

You're right though, I might to have to come up with some kind of scoring system for myself, and originality would probably be one criterion.  Hmmmm... ::sm-22.gif::
Ya, I think a couple of these games are remakes of other games. 10+ points for originality.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Bigmace on August 22, 2006, 03:05:46 AM
gonna have to go with my main man PSmonkey on this one. All are great releases though and I hope they can be developed to the fullest.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: framerate on August 22, 2006, 03:11:54 AM
As to my RPG engine using ripped sprites, please take a second to read the text and the "about" page to realize I gave credit to original artists and am only using ripped sprites to demonstrate my engine until I get a gfx guy on board :)

I don't expect your vote, just your understanding that ripped sprites were my only options at this point to show the engine :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: $n!pR on August 22, 2006, 03:20:18 AM
I don't expect your vote, just your understanding that ripped sprites were my only options at this point to show the engine :)

I see  ;D
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: psmonkey on August 22, 2006, 03:26:27 AM
As to my RPG engine using ripped sprites, please take a second to read the text and the "about" page to realize I gave credit to original artists and am only using ripped sprites to demonstrate my engine until I get a gfx guy on board :)

I don't expect your vote, just your understanding that ripped sprites were my only options at this point to show the engine :)

Not to put down authors who actualy have original artwork, but alot of entries here have some form of copyrighted art or art based on copyrighted characters. Hell I have a mario theme based on super mario bros that barrowed bg tiles.

We are all coders here, not artist. I'd be in a worse state if not for two friends helping out by building themes & picking out music.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: shazz on August 22, 2006, 03:27:44 AM
Yep R-gear used the original sprites of R-type (as a tribute it was the goal !) but all other artwork (intro, menu,...) was done by a graphist... (AlienPDX)

So yes, R-Gear is not original  (but features weapons and stuff from DingoFr's mind) and its "success" would be in the fact that people can say : THAT'S A COOL AS R-TYPE WAS :D

So if we can achieve this... We would be really happy :D
So originality = -10, fun = + 10 ? :D
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Gene on August 22, 2006, 03:46:44 AM
wow this poll is super close ::sm-29.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: framerate on August 22, 2006, 04:13:11 AM
I didn't want to vote for myself, so I voted for R-Gear based on it's production value. The polish is something I hope to achieve when I finish my work.

Although ThrottleX and TrigWars are awesome! It was really a hard decision...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Shady3089 on August 22, 2006, 04:17:37 AM
so many good entries. real tough to pick.  ::sm-02::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: papayo on August 22, 2006, 04:20:37 AM
ow man  ::sm-02::

I just couldn't decide between throttle X, Sandbox and The Stroke of Link. In the end I chose The Stroke of Link, because it's just so addicting ::sm-29.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on August 22, 2006, 04:29:54 AM
As to my RPG engine using ripped sprites, please take a second to read the text and the "about" page to realize I gave credit to original artists and am only using ripped sprites to demonstrate my engine until I get a gfx guy on board :)

I don't expect your vote, just your understanding that ripped sprites were my only options at this point to show the engine :)

Not to put down authors who actualy have original artwork, but alot of entries here have some form of copyrighted art or art based on copyrighted characters. Hell I have a mario theme based on super mario bros that barrowed bg tiles.

We are all coders here, not artist. I'd be in a worse state if not for two friends helping out by building themes & picking out music.
I just have small abstract images, scaled to there original size...  :)

Weirdly enough, I didnt find Trig Wars addicting this time around :(  Geometry wars was a little, but this new version has lost its 'filling' and now is all sticks and lines...  :(
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: xigency on August 22, 2006, 04:41:58 AM
Has anyone even tried mine?
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: framerate on August 22, 2006, 04:48:49 AM
Can I vote again for Stroke of Link? The production is amazing and the game is really addicting! Well done man!
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: SOOPERGOOMAN on August 22, 2006, 04:57:33 AM
I vote for Throttle X by AnonymousTipster
!!! He has always made the interesting games that I like. This one especially apeals to me because I live in a 2d dominated werld. Thanks for bringing 3D to me!!!
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: framerate on August 22, 2006, 04:59:50 AM
I vote for Throttle X by AnonymousTipster
!!! He has always made the interesting games that I like. This one especially apeals to me because I live in a 2d dominated werld. Thanks for bringing 3D to me!!!

I agree with this... AnonymousTiper does some amazing work with 3-D on the PSP...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: drakonite on August 22, 2006, 05:10:05 AM
Has anyone even tried mine?
Quak right?  IIRC that was one of the games that I had problems getting to work...

I downloaded a new copy and managed to get it to work this time...   I'm not a big fan of FPS (way too many out there anymore) but I like how you did the controls.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: AnonymousTipster on August 22, 2006, 05:18:28 AM
Thanks to everyone who's voted for me so far  :-*

There are now 3 new levels on the download service (just go to download on the main menu of throttleX).
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: snpinu2 on August 22, 2006, 05:22:30 AM
alot of tough decisions...   gonna have to pick the most addicitive, yet simple :D
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: ninja9393 on August 22, 2006, 05:22:51 AM
LUA wormz all the way
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Soulkiller on August 22, 2006, 05:32:24 AM
I personally found myself enjoying CSpsp, tahts what I voted for becuase I didn't want to vote for myself, I don't think mines going to win (FRAG v0.04b) personally becasue theirs alot of good games here and I wasn't finsihed with mine yet, but I did put alot of effort into It so all I ask is for you guys to check it out :( , But best of wishes to the winner!
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 22, 2006, 05:38:53 AM
Has anyone even tried mine?

I wonder about that myself.  Mine's been downloaded 11 times, and I can account for probably 6 of them (meaning 5 people I don't know may have tried mine).

 ::) Can't make them try it I guess.  I've tried a little over half the games so far, and I don't know why people are just voting right away without trying them all.  It's a foolish mistake in my opinion.

P.S.  Just got yours on my PSP.  The ducks...just...won't...stop.  Nice work so far. :)  One thing I didn't like was when I died I had to restart the PSP.

P.P.S. I still use your state switching and modular programming tutorial as a base for my games (check Zombie Escape's script.lua if you don't believe me).   :D
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Soulkiller on August 22, 2006, 05:44:00 AM
Has anyone even tried mine?

I wonder about that myself.  Mine's been downloaded 11 times, and I can account for probably 6 of them (meaning 5 people I don't know may have tried mine).

 ::) Can't make them try it I guess.  I've tried a little over half the games so far, and I don't know why people are just voting right away without trying them all.  It's a foolish mistake in my opinion.

P.S.  Just got yours on my PSP.  The ducks...just...won't...stop.  Nice work so far. :)  One thing I didn't like was when I died I had to restart the PSP.

P.P.S. I still use your state switching and modular programming tutorial as a base for my games (check Zombie Escape's script.lua if you don't believe me).   :D

hey atleast you got one vote.... I got none :(

BTW: you game reminds of that game called robots taht comes with ubuntu linux
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 22, 2006, 06:02:11 AM

hey atleast you got one vote.... I got none :(

BTW: you game reminds of that game called robots taht comes with ubuntu linux

What?  I got a vote?!?  ;D ::sm-18.gif:: 
I suppose I'll be able to see the votes after I actually vote.  That may take a while though, with my trying EVERY game.
Anyway, yeah, that's what I modeled it after.  :)

Thanks for trying my game (I posted on psp-programming about yours).
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: JmanUmmKay on August 22, 2006, 07:06:17 AM
Well PSmonkey you got my vote. Just curious what are the grand prizes of this compotation? I do think everyone did a great job and i hope the best entry wins.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: fire master on August 22, 2006, 07:14:17 AM
I don't know what to pick between Throttle X,Sandbox and R-Gear.  ::sm-04::
So I did a random pick and I got R-Gear so I choose R-Gear.But I the that the real winners here are all of us because we get to download and play all these cool games and everyone good luck. ::sm-29.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: xigency on August 22, 2006, 07:34:45 AM
So when do the polls close?
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: wraggster on August 22, 2006, 08:21:57 AM
The actual amount of downloads wont be correct, what you have to realise is that the big PSP/DS Sites have all posted news and mirrored these releases (took me a lot of time :)) so theres a lot more downloading and enjoying of the releases than just here. You have more fans of your releases than you know :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: $n!pR on August 22, 2006, 11:20:39 AM
So when do the polls close?
I think on the 30th or something.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 22, 2006, 11:40:02 AM
I would like to declare myself the first one to try every game!  :)  Probably, anyway.

After hours of debating with myself, I had to go with the game that I simply will play the most, which is Droplets...even though he already won something for it. :p

Even so, I would love to see updates of several games.  ThrottleX was great, can't wait for that to reach v1.  Trig Wars and R-Gear are really fun games, too.  These four were the last games I had to decide between.  Ceres, xGrid, and DYOX were close behind them, as they are great fun too.

Reactor would be great if the controls were a little more stable, and it would feel better if the reactor energy wouldn't refill every level.  FRAG had amazing character animations, can't wait to see everything else.   Meltdown was cool but as I mentioned in its thread it needs some gameplay balance.  Sandbox could be a great group of minigames with some polish, for example the bowling ball is not nearly heavy enough and the sandbox game was a bit buggy for me.  I love Lumines (it's the only PSP game I own), so Luminex was a fun clone, but it got a bit buggy after a while.  I'm not too much of a FPS guy but Quak could be good in future iterations.

That's all I could think of off the top of my head, but thanks to all of the developers, it's been great fun playing all of your games!

Oh yeah, I think my game is fun too. :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: framerate on August 22, 2006, 11:44:15 AM
I would like to declare myself the first one to try every game!  :)  Probably, anyway.

After hours of debating with myself, I had to go with the game that I simply will play the most, which is Droplets...even though he already won something for it. :p

Even so, I would love to see updates of several games.  ThrottleX was great, can't wait for that to reach v1.  Trig Wars and R-Gear are really fun games, too.  These four were the last games I had to decide between.  Ceres, xGrid, and DYOX were close behind them, as they are great fun too.

Reactor would be great if the controls were a little more stable, and it would feel better if the reactor energy wouldn't refill every level.  FRAG had amazing character animations, can't wait to see everything else.   Meltdown was cool but as I mentioned in its thread it needs some gameplay balance.  Sandbox could be a great group of minigames with some polish, for example the bowling ball is not nearly heavy enough and the sandbox game was a bit buggy for me.  I love Lumines (it's the only PSP game I own), so Luminex was a fun clone, but it got a bit buggy after a while.  I'm not too much of a FPS guy but Quak could be good in future iterations.

That's all I could think of off the top of my head, but thanks to all of the developers, it's been great fun playing all of your games!

Oh yeah, I think my game is fun too. :)

Dang, I was hoping for some criticism on my RPG engine ;)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: amidarion on August 22, 2006, 11:45:24 AM
Just finished the list of games after a day of testing!  geeze Dr. neo, you sure can hold a contest!  my usb wire is probably shorted out or something...

but i love my atari as i grew up with it.  amidar was by far my favorite  ::sm-18.gif::  gotta go with sg57s on this one guyz...  mainly because it reminds me of my childhood back when amidar saved me from boring nights, always trying to beat my score and dodge the little piggies  ::sm-27.gif::

but good luck to everyone else!  
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: [f]tari [a]reak on August 22, 2006, 12:20:44 PM
i too am a fan of the atari classics!

im about half way done with the list from bottom up.  im gonna check out the features and screens of this amidar clone... if it can get me hooked for atleast 15 minutes, it has me then!  else r-gear is next for a test.

good luck all creators!  please keep these coming especially atari classics!
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: petboy on August 22, 2006, 02:23:17 PM
This poll is hard to decide, many of the games are very good.  I chose R-Gear mainly because I like shoot-em-up style games more.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: danzel on August 22, 2006, 02:59:32 PM
I won't say who my vote went to, but I'll say that it was a very difficult choice, even after a full day of play testing.

There are some awesome games here guys! I'll be enjoying em for weeks :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: AnonymousTipster on August 22, 2006, 04:19:45 PM
When does the poll close?
It's been asked before, but we haven't got a clear answer yet.
I need to know, so that I can switch to panic mode! ::sm-04::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: PopcOrn DeVil on August 22, 2006, 04:42:52 PM
 8) I voted ThrottleX, by far my favourite ;).
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: ArtDonkey on August 22, 2006, 05:39:09 PM
I agree with Popc0rn Devil. I'm a designer so I'm easily swayed by graphics but this is a coding comp so Throttle X has to win.  There's nothing comes close in technical terms.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on August 22, 2006, 07:00:53 PM
id love to know when the poll closes as well...

Any info on that Dr. Neo?
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Raphael on August 22, 2006, 08:05:49 PM
Voted for R-Gear for the following reason:
A really new release
Commercial production style
resembles the old-school feeling very well
made me play quite some time until I got further without starting to get frustrating

Well, that -10 for originality there is kinda hard ;) I'd say -7, but +10 for any of the above. BTW, I don't find it problematic to use ripped sprites, as long as not everything is ripped (that's also what Dr. neo said in the other thread before the compo).

I also liked Trigo Wars a lot, but the one or other point from above wasn't hit 100% there, so it was close but R-Gear had the last little polish to it.


@ArtDonkey: I somehow share your idea about this being a coding compo, but I still think some good look and presentation should be aimed for. Also, if this would be a real choice of coding effort only I wonder what that PSP App results have to mean then :P I doubt they resemble that really
After all it's a public vote and therefore a measure of creativity, some advertising on other sites and being already known in the community. Only the final decision by the judges will be more likely aimed at the effort put into the production.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: AhMan on August 22, 2006, 09:40:00 PM
I've just voted ThrottleX by AT.  I love the Infrastructure play on it and I hope more homebrew games will support this in the future, so that we can compete with each others via Internet.  It's a shame that many of the PSP retail games don't provide Infrastructure support.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 22, 2006, 09:46:25 PM
Dang, I was hoping for some criticism on my RPG engine ;)

Ah, yeah sorry, I knew I was forgetting many others.  I love roleplaying games; it has my favorite genre since FF1 on the NES.  That's right, before FF7, back when we had to wait years for good RPG releases.  Anyway, the engine sounds like it can be great, but there just wasn't enough content to merit a vote.  But I am definitely looking forward to seeing preview #2 with battles, and I would like to see a preview of the "shining" part of it, if that's still in the plans, because you may or may not have some competition in that category. :D

I also forgot Stroke of Link!  I had fun with that one for quite a while. :)  Move it was good too, but moving the blocks felt a little clunky.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: AnonymousTipster on August 22, 2006, 10:40:28 PM
I can see where you're coming from Raphael, and although R-Gear is an awesome game which was programmed well, I wonder how much of that commercial polish came from using those sprites.

Nonetheless, if I get beaten by R-Gear, at least I know i've lost to a team of skilled programmers who have again raised the bar in PSP homebrew development.
I just hope that everyone enjoys my game and gets a good use out of it, because I tried to add in things to my game that would really increase it's lifespan, such as the editor and level downloads.

Good luck to all  :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: framerate on August 22, 2006, 11:10:50 PM
I can see where you're coming from Raphael, and although R-Gear is an awesome game which was programmed well, I wonder how much of that commercial polish came from using those sprites.

Nonetheless, if I get beaten by R-Gear, at least I know i've lost to a team of skilled programmers who have again raised the bar in PSP homebrew development.
I just hope that everyone enjoys my game and gets a good use out of it, because I tried to add in things to my game that would really increase it's lifespan, such as the editor and level downloads.

Good luck to all  :)

yeah man, I've been playing your game quite a bit. Honestly, R-Gear might be a bit too difficult. I wish I could reverse my vote at times... (if that helps you at all to know). I've been playing ThrottleX more (as well as Stroke of Link) and wanted to thank you for doing something so fun for the scene.

Hopefully when my engine becomes a "game" you'll get some enjoyment out of it as well ;)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Raphael on August 22, 2006, 11:20:51 PM
@AnonymousTipster: Yeah it's true that a lot of that polish comes from the sprites, but the sprites alone don't make the game good. They have to be used correctly and there's a lot of coding involved in that :) Let apart that nice music and intro... (though I'd wish to be able to skip it somehow :P)

You're still far away from losing to R-Gear though according to the votes, so nothing to worry yet :) You too made a great game and I'm sure it is highly appreciated among the community :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: shazz on August 23, 2006, 12:11:57 AM
@AnonymousTipster : yep the competition is going to be tough.. but that's good ! Personnaly, I tried ThrottleX, and frankly speaking I was happy to get some feeling I had with Stunt Racer years ago... I think this is a good beginning but to make a full game you'll need some help in terms of gfx, 3d modeling, design and so on. You've got a good engine which is important but not enough...

My true desire would be that you find people to help you to make a full PSP game.... it's worth it.

R-Gear is in my humble opinion more "complete" in terms of a good balance between technical code, design, gameplay and music but we worked as a team (2 coders, 1 graphist and 3 musicians) so obviously it was "easier" for us. That's why we were able to release 2 games in a short timeframe (I worked with 71M on TrigWars, 71M is a member of the console division of Titan too).

The fact that the game features "commercial" sprites was a goal, we wanted to redo R-type on the PSP.
By the way, the graphist proposed to redo all the sprites if R-Gear is going to evolve... so we'll see ;-)
But technically speaking R-Gear is not that "bad" .... the gameplay is I think (as I was not the gameplay coder, so no stupid egocentric proud) 99% identical to the real R-type and that still amazes me !

by the way good luck to all :D
I don't really mind (me at least) of the prize, I'm more interested in having people happy to play this game :D


Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: fire master on August 23, 2006, 12:17:07 AM
I think that thrrotle X could win because of it orinigality. (Great Work AnonymousTipster)
But R-Gear looks great and has additions to the original.(Great Work shazz)
But I like Sandbox because of all the mini games like Demolition.(Great work PS Smokey)
Also good luck to you all.  ::sm-29.gif::

P.S I thought Sandbox might of won but now Thrrotle X Might win 1st place.

P.S.S PS Smokey when are you going to continue Monkey 64.

     
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: AnonymousTipster on August 23, 2006, 12:25:33 AM
Competition is indeed good. I think it brings out the best work from people, I only add points that I think the judges should consider before reaching a final verdict.
With ThrottleX, I tried to do something a little different to most, to give the end user an interesting and lengthy experience. I worked very hard to add the editor and multiplayer, and so the visuals suffered. To me, a unique and interesting gameplay mechanic is more important than visuals, although they do have a role to play.
I will of course be building on the multiplayer base I've put down in this version, and plan to make a small online library to help C/C++ coders get their games online.

Anyway, I enjoyed RGear, and i'm sure you'll do well in the competition  :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: psmonkey on August 23, 2006, 01:07:17 AM
I think that thrrotle X could win because of it orinigality. (Great Work AnonymousTipster)
But R-Gear looks great and has additions to the original.(Great Work shazz)
But I like Sandbox because of all the mini games like Demolition.(Great work PS Smokey)
Also good luck to you all.  ::sm-29.gif::

P.S I thought Sandbox might of won but now Thrrotle X Might win 1st place.

P.S.S PS Smokey when are you going to continue Monkey 64.     

Heh. Another one likes demolision. It's my favorite, I just need to make more levels.  ::sm-29.gif::

Regarding m64, as soon as my v64jr shows up this week. I have a DD to hack.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Mailas on August 23, 2006, 02:04:03 AM
PS Monkey you got my vote!  :o
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: PsychoSync on August 23, 2006, 06:15:36 AM
I voted for you PSmonkey, but i was hard to decide between you and AnonymousT!!! Sorry for R-Gear, i never liked R-type shooters and the like. I see a lot of potential in Sandbox and Throttle-X, i know they are both incomplete but can become some great games!

Other games are not bad at all though but maybe need more originality or aren't completed enough like framerate's RPG engine wich can be great.

I can't deny that i voted for PSmonkey because of the N64DD emu he's willing to try to code... >:D

But i surely hope to see AnonymousTipster's Eclipse come to light so that is why  found it hard to decide.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: ArchAngel214 on August 23, 2006, 08:30:27 AM
71M deserves to win with TrigWars no doubt about it! GO 71M! (http://forums.psphacks.net/Smileys/default/emoticon_09.gif)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on August 23, 2006, 02:15:15 PM
Honestly, i think all should win just for donating to the community. Thats what keeps homebrew alive ;)  If homebrew were small little 5$ things, atleast 1/2 people wouldnt be where they are.  Could you amagine paying 1 $ to see Hello World on the screen?
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: PopcOrn DeVil on August 23, 2006, 06:28:49 PM
No but I could imagine paying $5 for some of the stuff here :P.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on August 23, 2006, 07:10:28 PM
Why though...  That new PS1 Emulator coming from Sony will be dishing out commercial games, for like... 5 $
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: framerate on August 23, 2006, 08:42:21 PM
Why though...  That new PS1 Emulator coming from Sony will be dishing out commercial games, for like... 5 $

Because either some of these games COULD BE commercial games (in quality) and other people just don't mind supporting homebrew developers... I myself have donated money to other developers if their project is worth it to me.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: accordian boy on August 23, 2006, 11:33:15 PM
PSmonkey for Sandbox

erm… yeah…GO PSMONKEY GO…hoorah?
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: KOR on August 24, 2006, 12:03:35 AM
PSmonkey' s sand box, all i can say is physics.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: AnonymousTipster on August 24, 2006, 12:56:59 AM
But i surely hope to see AnonymousTipster's Eclipse come to light so that is why  found it hard to decide.
I still plan to finish Eclipse, I am currently looking into libcurls 'multi' function set, which should allow for downloads to continue in the background whilst you browse, possibly even multiple concurrent downloads.
For the moment, though, I want to concentrate on optimising the online portion and getting 16 player working effectively.
 :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: alexmae on August 24, 2006, 01:32:58 AM
ThrottleX gets my vote ;)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: PsychoSync on August 24, 2006, 04:13:47 AM
 ::sm-04:: Damn!! There's too many good devs here!! Look who's coming Anonymous...  ::sm-24.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Bossmanuk on August 24, 2006, 04:26:05 AM
It had to be ThrottleX 0.3 for me. I've played ThrottleX since it was first released and I must say that I enjoy it even moe than Burnout Legends!
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: salamender30 on August 24, 2006, 05:00:04 AM
I tested a few... TrigWars is really cool (got my vote), Throttle X is a little buggy & rough but quite addictive at the end, R-gear "looks" commercial but too difficult (so seems short)...

Drakonite's puzzles are nicely done too.

But HOW can sandbox have so much voices ??????? It is boring, the physics are provided by the ODE engine, what's up ???? It looks like a mystery for me or his author has a lot of friends... and people who vote for this guy because he's doing another project.... illogical for me, I hope the judges will have more brains... ;-)

Bah, whatever this is a wonderful compo, really better than the 1st PSP shot this spring !
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: $n!pR on August 24, 2006, 05:15:50 AM
HOW can sandbox have so much voices ?
Maybe because its one of the most original submissions and has a lot of potential.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 24, 2006, 05:21:50 AM
It looks like a mystery for me or his author has a lot of friends... and people who vote for this guy because he's doing another project.... illogical for me, I hope the judges will have more brains... ;-)

You do bring up a good point, albeit a bit roughly...who makes the final decision?  Is it purely user votes?  I think that's a bad idea, given that people could easily get around the IP logging - which I suspect has happened in this very compo (not with PSmonkey, though, because his supporters have been rather vocal).  Or is there a panel of judges (or just a judge - Dr. neo?) that makes the final decision, possibly factoring in user votes?

I tried to find info on this elsewhere on this site but I couldn't.  Does anyone know?
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: xigency on August 24, 2006, 05:26:06 AM
It had to be ThrottleX 0.3 for me. I've played ThrottleX since it was first released and I must say that I enjoy it even moe than Burnout Legends!

It has soo much play time! I've probably spent 5 hours playing the game so far, and i finally beat Ultimate Test  :D

And there is a lot of playtime in the multiplayer too.

And then of course there is the Editor too! ( Im working on a wicked hard level )

Keep up the good work AnonymousTipster!
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: psmonkey on August 24, 2006, 05:29:35 AM
It looks like a mystery for me or his author has a lot of friends... and people who vote for this guy because he's doing another project.... illogical for me, I hope the judges will have more brains... ;-)

You do bring up a good point, albeit a bit roughly...who makes the final decision?  Is it purely user votes?  I think that's a bad idea, given that people could easily get around the IP logging - which I suspect has happened in this very compo (not with PSmonkey, though, because his supporters have been rather vocal).  Or is there a panel of judges (or just a judge - Dr. neo?) that makes the final decision, possibly factoring in user votes?

I tried to find info on this elsewhere on this site but I couldn't.  Does anyone know?

Far as I read, Its a mix of judges votes + user votes to pick the places each entry gets.

Also yes some of my votes are from my fanbase (i've released alot in this scene) yet alot of others have also gotten votes from their fanbase.
 ^-^
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: psmonkey on August 24, 2006, 05:33:29 AM
But HOW can sandbox have so much voices ??????? It is boring, the physics are provided by the ODE engine, what's up ???? It looks like a mystery for me or his author has a lot of friends... and people who vote for this guy because he's doing another project.... illogical for me, I hope the judges will have more brains... ;-)

I dont think that was rather nice to say. There is alot more to my entry if you actualy play around with it. Sure I might be using ODE but so is trottleX. I also spent alot of time writing the whole engine my project is running on (its not a port from any of my previous work).

 :'(
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on August 24, 2006, 05:47:52 AM
Sorry, but watching a 3D physics engine in an interactive demo, just doesnt cut it for me.  ThrottleX and Sandbox both use the same engine, but i rather play a game then an interactive demo...  ::sm-02::  No hard feelings though...  I see potential in it though.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: $n!pR on August 24, 2006, 06:04:29 AM
Sorry, but watching a 3D physics engine in an interactive demo, just doesnt cut it for me.  ThrottleX and Sandbox both use the same engine, but i rather play a game then an interactive demo...  ::sm-02::  No hard feelings though...  I see potential in it though.
I cant believe you just said that...Sandbox is more than an interactive demo. You can create your own themes, and customize the way Sandbox behaves through the theme.ini file. Stop looking at whats given to you, or if something has flashy graphics and take a look at what it can be...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 24, 2006, 06:42:21 AM
Also yes some of my votes are from my fanbase (i've released alot in this scene) yet alot of others have also gotten votes from their fanbase.
 ^-^

I probably wasn't clear enough, but I actually meant that I think your votes are genuine and deserved (I'm a fan of yours too :D), it's just a couple other games that I'm suspicious about (I won't say which ones, but if you try them all you'd probably agree).  Well, I'm just glad there are judges.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: psmonkey on August 24, 2006, 06:51:29 AM
Also yes some of my votes are from my fanbase (i've released alot in this scene) yet alot of others have also gotten votes from their fanbase.
 ^-^

I probably wasn't clear enough, but I actually meant that I think your votes are genuine and deserved (I'm a fan of yours too :D), it's just a couple other games that I'm suspicious about (I won't say which ones, but if you try them all you'd probably agree).  Well, I'm just glad there are judges.

 ;)   8) I like fans.

Did you make any sudgestions on what you would like to see in sandbox?
I keep cooking up new ideas but realise I need to finish other things first ( I realised it would be fun to do a monkeyball clone & also a burnout destruction clone (the mode where you try to rack as much points based on destruction ).
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Timale-kun on August 24, 2006, 07:18:20 AM
A PSMonkey Fan ;)!! Great as usual ::sm-07.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on August 24, 2006, 08:44:03 AM
I found an atari game 'enthusist' fan site.  I made a post saying i cloned Amidar, with a bit different game play, and got some votes by it ::sm-27.gif::

Strategic advertising is the trick i guess.  But im suspicious on people who can change there IPs.  My ISP wont let me touch anything of the sort, so im clear  :D
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 24, 2006, 10:54:58 AM
I found an atari game 'enthusist' fan site.  I made a post saying i cloned Amidar, with a bit different game play, and got some votes by it ::sm-27.gif::

Strategic advertising is the trick i guess.  But im suspicious on people who can change there IPs.  My ISP wont let me touch anything of the sort, so im clear  :D

Well that sounds like cheating to me! ::sm-16.gif::  Just kidding...actually I liked your game so I wouldn't have guessed they weren't just from PSP people.
 ;)

Doesn't matter to me as much anymore since I found out that judges have a say.  Hopefully they put more weight on their own decision. 

And actually I was more just thinking some people may be going to friend's houses or something and voting for their own app, that sort of thing is so simple and you just can't guard against it.  At least with my whopping 4 votes nobody can accuse me.
:D

Hmmm, I wonder, if I go up to every computer lab on campus and vote for mine on every computer...well that's 240 votes just from the engineering labs, as long as I can think of 240 different usernames.  I'll definitely win then!
 ;D
P.S. I'm kidding again, if you can't tell. 8)  And I like these smilies.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: $n!pR on August 24, 2006, 11:02:14 AM
Hmmm, I wonder, if I go up to every computer lab on campus and vote for mine on every computer...well that's 240 votes just from the engineering labs, as long as I can think of 240 different usernames.  I'll definitely win then!
 ;D
P.S. I'm kidding again, if you can't tell. 8)  And I like these smilies.
LoL. Even if you tried to do that it wouldnt work as theres only 1 external IP for all those computers. :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 24, 2006, 11:05:20 AM
LoL. Even if you tried to do that it wouldnt work as theres only 1 external IP for all those computers. :)

I had a feeling that was the case as I was typing it, but I thought it was funny anyway.
 ::sm-18.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Yodajr on August 24, 2006, 02:34:28 PM
I love this contest, thank you NeoFlash for it  ;)
This year we have some WONDERFULL games and apps, it's like christmas, a lot of gifts for me  ::sm-24.gif::
Thank you also to guys who voted for me or write something nice about my entry (expecially like framerate  :-*)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: pspwill on August 24, 2006, 06:00:47 PM
ThrottleX and Anonymous Tipster get my vote, truely brilliant game :D
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: papayo on August 25, 2006, 04:59:10 AM
I love this contest, thank you NeoFlash for it  ;)
This year we have some WONDERFULL games and apps, it's like christmas, a lot of gifts for me  ::sm-24.gif::
Thank you also to guys who voted for me or write something nice about my entry (expecially like framerate  :-*)

Your game rocks! :) It's super addicting! (I'm at level 28)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: fire master on August 25, 2006, 12:34:16 PM
I voted for you PSmonkey, but i was hard to decide between you and AnonymousT!!! Sorry for R-Gear, i never liked R-type shooters and the like. I see a lot of potential in Sandbox and Throttle-X, i know they are both incomplete but can become some great games!

Other games are not bad at all though but maybe need more originality or aren't completed enough like framerate's RPG engine wich can be great.

I can't deny that i voted for PSmonkey because of the N64DD emu he's willing to try to code... >:D

You Should R-Type it's a very good game even it you don't like R-type shooters because hey you never know.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: fire master on August 25, 2006, 12:57:18 PM
It looks like a mystery for me or his author has a lot of friends... and people who vote for this guy because he's doing another project.... illogical for me, I hope the judges will have more brains... ;-)

You do bring up a good point, albeit a bit roughly...who makes the final decision?  Is it purely user votes?  I think that's a bad idea, given that people could easily get around the IP logging - which I suspect has happened in this very compo (not with PSmonkey, though, because his supporters have been rather vocal).  Or is there a panel of judges (or just a judge - Dr. neo?) that makes the final decision, possibly factoring in user votes?

I tried to find info on this elsewhere on this site but I couldn't.  Does anyone know?

Far as I read, Its a mix of judges votes + user votes to pick the places each entry gets.

Also yes some of my votes are from my fanbase (i've released alot in this scene) yet alot of others have also gotten votes from their fanbase.
 ^-^

PS Smokey I one of your fans and I want to tell you that your work is amasing like SMSPlus(that right I was in the homebrew community when it all started)
but when are you going to update Sandbox because it's good but you cannot pause it. Also you have been a major icon in the community and you will always have my respect.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: psmonkey on August 25, 2006, 01:14:32 PM
It looks like a mystery for me or his author has a lot of friends... and people who vote for this guy because he's doing another project.... illogical for me, I hope the judges will have more brains... ;-)

You do bring up a good point, albeit a bit roughly...who makes the final decision?  Is it purely user votes?  I think that's a bad idea, given that people could easily get around the IP logging - which I suspect has happened in this very compo (not with PSmonkey, though, because his supporters have been rather vocal).  Or is there a panel of judges (or just a judge - Dr. neo?) that makes the final decision, possibly factoring in user votes?

I tried to find info on this elsewhere on this site but I couldn't.  Does anyone know?

Far as I read, Its a mix of judges votes + user votes to pick the places each entry gets.

Also yes some of my votes are from my fanbase (i've released alot in this scene) yet alot of others have also gotten votes from their fanbase.
 ^-^

PS Smokey I one of your fans and I want to tell you that your work is amasing like SMSPlus(that right I was in the homebrew community when it all started)
but when are you going to update Sandbox because it's good but you cannot pause it. Also you have been a major icon in the community and you will always have my respect.

Heh, I did not do SMSPlus. I did ngPsp, a port of NeoPop (a Neo Geo Pocket emu) to psp. :) Yet yeah that was in the early early nem years. :P

As for pause. It's on its way.
 ::sm-21.gif::
I am trying to force out a new build but I want to do more then a few fixes. Its either gonna be an internal theme maker or mini golf. More on the theme maker side to expand what the concept of sandbox really is.


Also, I got returning to the main menu done. Just gotta add pause menu.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: fire master on August 26, 2006, 12:23:34 AM
It looks like a mystery for me or his author has a lot of friends... and people who vote for this guy because he's doing another project.... illogical for me, I hope the judges will have more brains... ;-)

You do bring up a good point, albeit a bit roughly...who makes the final decision?  Is it purely user votes?  I think that's a bad idea, given that people could easily get around the IP logging - which I suspect has happened in this very compo (not with PSmonkey, though, because his supporters have been rather vocal).  Or is there a panel of judges (or just a judge - Dr. neo?) that makes the final decision, possibly factoring in user votes?

I tried to find info on this elsewhere on this site but I couldn't.  Does anyone know?

Far as I read, Its a mix of judges votes + user votes to pick the places each entry gets.

Also yes some of my votes are from my fanbase (i've released alot in this scene) yet alot of others have also gotten votes from their fanbase.
 ^-^

PS Smokey I one of your fans and I want to tell you that your work is amasing like SMSPlus(that right I was in the homebrew community when it all started)
but when are you going to update Sandbox because it's good but you cannot pause it. Also you have been a major icon in the community and you will always have my respect.

Heh, I did not do SMSPlus. I did ngPsp, a port of NeoPop (a Neo Geo Pocket emu) to psp. :) Yet yeah that was in the early early nem years. :P

As for pause. It's on its way.
 ::sm-21.gif::
I am trying to force out a new build but I want to do more then a few fixes. Its either gonna be an internal theme maker or mini golf. More on the theme maker side to expand what the concept of sandbox really is.


Also, I got returning to the main menu done. Just gotta add pause menu.

Wow we are lucky to a very talanted programmer like you and I can wait to see updates on sandbox. Also are you going to work on the ngpsp emulator
because it's a great emu but the sound needs some work. ::sm-29.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: psmonkey on August 26, 2006, 12:44:53 AM
Wow we are lucky to a very talanted programmer like you and I can wait to see updates on sandbox. Also are you going to work on the ngpsp emulator
because it's a great emu but the sound needs some work. ::sm-29.gif::

Actualy I already have a new build done (core wise). I've just been too busy/lazy to code a new gui so I can release it. The speeds are better with snk vs capcom doing roughly 50fps if you turn interlace on.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: psplover on August 26, 2006, 03:02:07 AM
It's much harder to pick my favorite in the PSP game section than the app section.  Many of the games are great and additive.  I like ThrottleX & R-Gear the most and it's really hard to pick.  Since I had to choose one, I'll pick ThrottleX.  It has the element that keep me coming back to the game.  R-Gear is a bit difficult and I still can't get pass the first level.  Maybe I suck at 2d shooters.   :(
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: AnonymousTipster on August 26, 2006, 04:54:16 AM
Have I been ignoring it all this time, or did 'Escape' just jump up a whole lot? ::sm-04::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Yodajr on August 26, 2006, 04:59:09 AM
Have I been ignoring it all this time, or did 'Escape' just jump up a whole lot? ::sm-04::
You're not alone...
Curious...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: DingoFR on August 26, 2006, 05:02:54 AM
hehe it's a cool game. :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Produkt on August 26, 2006, 05:19:14 AM
its entirely skechy to me... I mean only five votes after 5 days... then 44 in a single morning? not logical...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: QuickJump on August 26, 2006, 05:24:04 AM
Seems like someone decided to cheat and create multiple accounts - emu1 to emu15, probably all voting for Escape
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Produkt on August 26, 2006, 05:32:56 AM
you're right, they were all registed within an hour's time span... most likely you can check and find that they are all on the same IP adress aswell... but that still leaves a good 20 votes unaccounted for
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: fire master on August 26, 2006, 05:54:04 AM
Seems like someone decided to cheat and create multiple accounts - emu1 to emu15, probably all voting for Escape

I have to agree with you there I think that some one keeped on creating new accounts just to vote for the same game over and over again which should be cheating and I hate cheaters. Espically if it's in a contest.  ::sm-16.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: $n!pR on August 26, 2006, 05:56:44 AM
It should be disqulified then as its ovious someones been cheating.

EDIT: I was able to login to emu1 account and am assuming all the others have the same password. The guy used a spam account for all of them (http://spam.la) - use filter emu-emu15 and you'll see that they've all been registered within 2 minutes of each other.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: fire master on August 26, 2006, 06:10:21 AM
Have I been ignoring it all this time, or did 'Escape' just jump up a whole lot? ::sm-04::

Whats up Anonymos Tipster I have to tell you great game and I have beaten throttle x and that last level was very hard. Good luck and i'm rooting for you like most people are. ::sm-29.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: pspfan on August 26, 2006, 06:24:34 AM
As far as I know, it's pretty easy for forum admins to check IPs and see how many accounts were made on that IP, so hopefully it'll get sorted out soon.

If it does turn out to be cheating, the cheater(s) should be immediately disqualified, in my opinion.

It might be a good idea to just check the IPs of all the people who submitted entries in case there were some cheaters who were a little less obvious about it.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: $n!pR on August 26, 2006, 06:29:54 AM
As far as I know, it's pretty easy for forum admins to check IPs and see how many accounts were made on that IP, so hopefully it'll get sorted out soon.

If it does turn out to be cheating, the cheater(s) should be immediately disqualified, in my opinion.

It might be a good idea to just check the IPs of all the people who submitted entries in case there were some cheaters who were a little less obvious about it.
I've already confirmed that those emu* accounts were created within a few minutes of each other so hopefully this will all get sorted soon.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: LMelior on August 26, 2006, 11:51:29 AM
I don't know that the game should be disqualified, because it might not have been the developer doing it.  I just think the judges of the compo should just take the community votes with a grain of salt (but then, with 4 votes, I would say that).
:D
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: PopcOrn DeVil on August 26, 2006, 12:01:36 PM
Time to die cheaters.  >:D
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on August 26, 2006, 03:59:14 PM
It doesnt really matter what hte IP is, since manycan change there IP address either the use of software (?), hardware (i hear unplugging you modem for 24 hours works?) or just  going to you local library and jumping from computer to compuer voting after registering new emails and accounts.

I for one, cant touch my home computers cause my ISP, and am ffaaarrr to lazy to go to the library, and jump computers, creating email address, typing in some random stuff for an account, go to the fake email and activate the account, go all the way back to the poll, to just click 'vote' and repeat 20 + times.  I rather be home watching FMA and eating Taco Bell

Or doing a little of this...  ::sm-12.gif::
Thats right... playing with my balls...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: PopcOrn DeVil on August 26, 2006, 05:11:06 PM
My IP changes whenever I turn my modem off and on again.  ::sm-27.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: taichi1082 on August 26, 2006, 06:51:22 PM
hey u guys... i was very surpirised too if i saw the votes. i cannot belive that my (bad...) game have more votes than my favorite, trigwars.
But i am not a cheater! you can belive me! i told my friends to vote for me, but that are only 5 guys...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: $n!pR on August 26, 2006, 06:54:11 PM
hey u guys... i was very surpirised too if i saw the votes. i cannot belive that my (bad...) game have more votes than my favorite, trigwars.
But i am not a cheater! you can belive me! i told my friends to vote for me, but that are only 5 guys...
Even so, it wasnt even in the running to win (5 votes?) So at least it should be disqualified from winning this poll.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: taichi1082 on August 26, 2006, 07:00:46 PM
hey u guys... i was very surpirised too if i saw the votes. i cannot belive that my (bad...) game have more votes than my favorite, trigwars.
But i am not a cheater! you can belive me! i told my friends to vote for me, but that are only 5 guys...
Even so, it wasnt even in the running to win (5 votes?) So at least it should be disqualified from winning this poll.
is it forbidden to ask friends to vote? damn  :'(
than reduce my votes to 44, but please dont disqualifie me ::sm-08.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: wram on August 26, 2006, 07:41:36 PM
Only 5 Guys huh ?
Don't be ridiculous please.

You wanted a whole forum to vote for your game, how you can see in this threads:

http://game.torrent-galaxy.to/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20025
http://game.torrent-galaxy.to/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20020

There were more but they got deleted 'cuz it is a Spamming Area.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: taichi1082 on August 26, 2006, 07:57:55 PM
Only 5 Guys huh ?
Don't be ridiculous please.

You wanted a whole forum to vote for your game, how you can see in this threads:

http://game.torrent-galaxy.to/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20025
http://game.torrent-galaxy.to/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20020

There were more but they got deleted 'cuz it is a Spamming Area.
yes, but only 5 guys voted (see my sig, i said thanks :)  )
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: wram on August 26, 2006, 08:23:37 PM
So whats up with this ?
http://game.torrent-galaxy.to/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20046

Let me translate the text to English:

taichi1082 (01:58 PM) :
of course. i only had 10 votes. So ich cheatet
taichi1082 (01:59 PM) :
I want the mk4 - sd card :-)
Mites (01:59 PM) :
you are a fox oO
taichi1082 (01:59 PM) :
they'll get to know it. also who cares
Mites (02:00 PM) :
not if spamming gets deleted
taichi1082 (02:00 PM) :
**** that my nickname is declarated as a cheater in the psp szene
taichi1082 (02:00 PM) :
oh yes ...
taichi1082 (02:00 PM) :
can you arrange it for me ?
Mites (02:00 PM) :
neh =)
taichi1082 (02:00 PM) :
****

Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: taichi1082 on August 26, 2006, 08:36:00 PM
lol thats is fake. i've never wrote something like that. (look in the thread ._.")
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Brunni on August 27, 2006, 12:40:31 AM
IIRC, those votes only count for "1", and judges votes are also "1" for each judge.
So I just hope judges will take time to CAREFULLY test ALL games and apps and not give a note based on the public vote, because there might have been cheaters.
I know it will be very hard because there are a lot of entries out there, but it is very important...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: pspfan on August 27, 2006, 03:57:08 AM
Honestly, if it's not too hard, I think we should have the admins check all IPs of all the people who submitted entries just to make sure that they haven't registered multiple accounts and voted for themselves. It's true they could have gone to different computers or they could've gotten friends to do it, but I think that if there was cheating some of them would have done it on the same IP address.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on August 28, 2006, 03:37:25 AM
I think the judges should use common sense.  There is no way, after 4 some odd days of voting, everyone has used there vote, that there could be 50 more votes polled, all into one game...

And those links to the forum threads basically shows he found a place where he could post about cheating, and get people to do it.

I say, just take 40 some odd votes away from his count, but Im not in charge.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: saulotmalo on August 28, 2006, 07:58:51 AM
almost anyone of us are a high programmer class and we know how internet works ip and other thinks and... know how to cheat. I've decided not to cheat because i make programs to get fun nor to get prizes also sucks that people making triks, i think the poll must be null but shown i mean the winner must be said by the judge.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: Glynnder on August 28, 2006, 06:59:53 PM
 ;) go Tipster!
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: stotheamuel on August 29, 2006, 11:16:38 AM
sanbox...!
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: PsychoSync on August 30, 2006, 04:25:33 AM
When does the compo ends?
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: smealum on August 30, 2006, 05:45:09 AM
The vote ends on the 30th, so we can expect the results to be revealed this week :)
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on August 31, 2006, 07:28:02 AM
Wow... if you actually play all the games and look at the votes, youll see there are 2 games that dont have legit amount of votes...  just disqualify the cheaters  ^-^
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: kevin102 on August 31, 2006, 08:02:09 AM
wtf saultomalo is cheating!
i agree...  between GetTheStars and The Stroke of Link, saultomalo's game doesnt deserve to be tied with it based on both quality and game play...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: xTwistedx on August 31, 2006, 08:20:23 AM
Legacy

That is my pick
later.
btw, that is a sweet game.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: saulotmalo on August 31, 2006, 10:09:02 AM
kevin102 you're alot smart i'm cheating to be at i think 7th or something like that when i already have a sure prize... because i've got an application in psp so i've already win and only can win a prize. if i get discualified i'll will find out why, my game has more cuality than others here, furthermore i've worked on a library that i've released after code the game the people is happy whith that and they vote me. As i'm don't cheatet, please demonstrate that i'm cheat... i think that are alot of people like you jealous but this is not my problem.

pd: sorry by the post but i hate people that criticizes the work of others...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on August 31, 2006, 12:25:22 PM
Sualtomalo said he CAN cheat, but he DIDNT cheat.  All we have is his word, we must go by that.  ::sm-13.gif::

Hey, any idea when the poll closes?
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: psmonkey on August 31, 2006, 01:18:06 PM
Sualtomalo said he CAN cheat, but he DIDNT cheat.  All we have is his word, we must go by that.  ::sm-13.gif::

Hey, any idea when the poll closes?

Supost to been the 30th. So i guess when Dr.Neo gets up he will start closing them down. I look forward to the results.

 ::sm-21.gif::

kevin102 you're alot smart i'm cheating to be at i think 7th or something like that when i already have a sure prize... because i've got an application in psp so i've already win and only can win a prize. if i get discualified i'll will find out why, my game has more cuality than others here, furthermore i've worked on a library that i've released after code the game the people is happy whith that and they vote me. As i'm don't cheatet, please demonstrate that i'm cheat... i think that are alot of people like you jealous but this is not my problem.

pd: sorry by the post but i hate people that criticizes the work of others...

Nothing personal but you're game is really simple. While more advance then most of the lua junk released to the scene, it still could be done in a day.

Also not to be mean but I hope your lib is offering more then just playing md2 models. There are already a few out there and it's not really anything special. I mean if you must atleast add some advance things to it that one would not find in a normal package (maybe emboss bump mapping or something more complex).
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: cory1492 on August 31, 2006, 01:40:43 PM
Thanks everyone who took time to code something to enter. I for one enjoyed going through most of them.

For the record, if you ask to have post removed and I start digging and see that you have 3 or more email address registered at your IP in the same day... I will be suspicious of your claims.

At any rate, the total *@spam* email registered addresses are banned. This amounts to roughly 40 accounts created in the last 5 days to what appears to be approximately 5 users, at least one of which has a non-static proxy or IP, but always in the same range. None had any posts to the forum at all, so I am sorry if you have a legitimate reason for using such a signup system.

The public vote is probably going to account for about 1/5th to 1/7th of the final rank (going by past compos). The biggest/best reason for the public vote is to envolve people, allowing forum members to contribute to the final verdict - not to decide alone who wins, that is more generally done by quality work and how it compares to the other entries. As to the polls... as with anything, if you abuse it, you just might lose it.

And please remember folks... the focus in having a compo isn't the prizes but the fun had by those who choose to participate. While prizes are desireable, they are more often than not well earned by the winners.

The poll will close when it is closed, and by all means please read my sig.
 ::sm-05::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: saulotmalo on August 31, 2006, 08:23:42 PM
psmonkey my implementation is using tringle fan and triangle strip (i don't know the other libraries what uses...  but it is a high performance) also i'm now in exams but after this i'm planing to enable toon shadding beacause i'm working on a big game which will use this tecnic...
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: psmonkey on September 01, 2006, 09:26:15 AM
psmonkey my implementation is using tringle fan and triangle strip (i don't know the other libraries what uses...  but it is a high performance) also i'm now in exams but after this i'm planing to enable toon shadding beacause i'm working on a big game which will use this tecnic...

Via the md2 cmd list? I think since md2 are not very complex and single texture most just skip it. and render as a straight triangle list.

Toon shading would be a huge improvement or boost but I think you should try to add much more.

Sorry if I sound harsh or mean. Not trying to be, just trying to give feedback to add more.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on September 01, 2006, 09:34:54 AM
Toon shading is often refered to as Cel shading  :o
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: xigency on September 01, 2006, 11:20:22 AM
Toon shading is often refered to as Cel shading  :o

Good call  ^-^


 ::sm-15.gif:: Anxious for the judges decisions.
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: sg57 on September 02, 2006, 01:38:18 AM
Im leaving for 3 days to go to my lake cabin.  To both get out for 3 days before school starts up  ::sm-09.gif:: , and finish an entire book and write a report on it  ::sm-04::

Hopefully anything regarding the contest e doesnt need my input or anything  ::sm-10.gif::
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: saulotmalo on September 02, 2006, 03:35:47 AM
psmonkey i'll be adding inprovements in order i'm need it... so i can't tell ill put normal mapping or anythink because i'll won't use it... By the way i have 2 projects one is a really big game which i'm the only programmer but i have a lot of people working on desing and other things, the other i have in mind but already don't have decided is an implementation of the OBEX protocol...

well if i can i'll support more features to the md2 models because in the game i need it, but i'm trying to this library a litle fast because is what i need in my game sorry if it is not the feature any one likes

pd: psmonkey youre a famous coder and i respect you alot your suggestions ar thankfull
Title: Re: the POLL for PSP GAME division
Post by: ERGLupin on September 05, 2006, 08:30:07 AM
oh I guess the polls are closed :P Anyway I would of put my 2 cents in for Trig Wars and IRShell