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Title: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 04, 2010, 03:07:09 AM
Chilly Willy's Neo Compo 2010 Reviews


N64 Apps

GeneScript
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6292.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 15
Usefullness
: 20
Bonus
: 5
Comments: GeneScript is compiler and a virtual machine. It allows you to write scripts that can act as programs, or helper code for another program. For example, you could write a simple 2D game in GeneScript, or the enemy response code for a more complex program. While GeneScript doesn't really have graphics or audio or controls in itself, it supports these things for programmers to use them in their own code. Bonus for being a homebrew tool.70/100

SMPlayer
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6311.0.html)
Graphics
: 5
Sound
: 15
Controls
: 5
Originality
: 5
Usefullness
: 15
Bonus
: 5
Comments: This is my own entry, so any score is probably not going to count. Is anyone truly free of bias? Anywho, SMPlayer is a simple music player for the N64. The graphics and controls are nothing special, and it's not very original. It has good sound, but there are bugs in some of the audio decoders. The main purpose of SMP is to serve as a template for Myth-aware programs on the N64 Myth. Using the code from SMP, one could do their own program with access to the SD card. Bonus for being open source.50/100


NDS Apps

Avia: Your Personal Birdwatcher's Guide!
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6310.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 20
Usefullness
: 10
Bonus
: 10
Comments: This is a very original program, but not very useful unless you are a bird watcher. The graphics and sound are decent, but nothing special. If this were open source, it might be more useful as a template for user guides in other areas, but as it is, the only draw to this is its originality. Bonus for the bird quiz. Bonus for motion support70/100

DScriptor
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6274.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 0
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 15
Usefullness
: 15
Bonus
: 0
Comments: With this app, you can view images, draw pictures, write, and read text. The controls are pretty good, with the exception of the writing. Even following the guide on forming letters, you often get the wrong letter. It's fairly useful, but the music that plays in the background gets annoying after a while.55/100

DSLamp
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6247.0.html)
Graphics
: 0
Sound
: 0
Controls
: 5
Originality
: 0
Usefullness
: 5
Bonus
: 5
Comments: This app just shows some colors when you push the buttons. That's it. Not much to say - the score says it all. Bonus for open source.15/100

Etch
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6294.0.html)
Graphics
: 20
Sound
: 0
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 10
Usefullness
: 10
Bonus
: 0
Comments: Etch is a paint program. It's got some good features for a handheld game console paint program. In the end, that's the main limitation. If you needed the features provided to edit an image, you wouldn't use an NDS, you'd use a computer.55/100

fb4nds
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6226.0.html)
Graphics
: 5
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 20
Usefullness
: 15
Bonus
: 5
Comments: This is a NDS chat client for FaceBook. Pretty original... and pretty useful to some folks. That's where the points are concentrated. Bonus for being open source.70/100

Jazzier Suite 2.0
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6249.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 20
Usefullness
: 15
Bonus
: 10
Comments: Jazzier is a neat tool for a musician. It's a learning tool to help your timing, notation reading, and pitch recognition. Most people tend to know at least one instrument, and usually need pratice reading music, so I find this very original, and useful to many people. Bonus for being educational.75/100

Online Jukebox DS
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6313.0.html)
Graphics
: 5
Sound
: 15
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 10
Usefullness
: 15
Bonus
: 0
Comments: Online Jukebox is an internet radio streaming app. The bitrate cap is kinda low, but you can't expect to much from an NDS for this sort of thing.55/100

Tirada 2
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6260.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 0
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 10
Usefullness
: 5
Bonus
: 10
Comments: Tirada 2 is a dice rolling app. It rolls dice. You can choose up to 21 dies, and choose between standard six-sided dice or custom dice with any number of sides. Maybe useful to people playing D&D. Another program where the music playing in the background gets annoying. Bonus for being open source.50/100


PCE Apps

Hunter - An NSF Player
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6268.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 15
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 10
Usefullness
: 10
Bonus
: 5
Comments: This is an NES music player for the PCE. Not much else to say. Bonus for REALLY fitting the "retro" category. While a PSP or NDS is of dubious "retro-ness", no one can say that about the PCE.60/100


PSP Apps

Attractive Pixelart App!
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6307.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 0
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 5
Usefullness
: 10
Bonus
: 5
Comments: This is a simple paint program. It's got some bugs and doesn't do a lot. Bonus for being open source.40/100

Cristal Vista 7.0 DEMO
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6304.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 0
Usefullness
: 10
Bonus
: -5
Comments: Cristal Vista is a shell for the PSP. It copies the look and feel of Windows Vista. While the graphics are good, they aren't really the author's. All he has done is copied Vista. I don't give points for copying others, but he did a good job not screwing it up, so I gave points for that. Similarly, this program is nothing new for the PSP - shells that play music and show pictures are a dime a dozen on the PSP. The only thing different here is the Vista look and feel, which is not his. On top of it all, he submitted a DEMO, so it's of limited usefullness. Remember we can't score this for what the finished product is, but for what the submitted project is. Also, it was submitted two days late - points off for that. In the end, he's lucky to get the score he does, which is mostly just for not screwing up.40/100

PSPDictionary
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6300.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 0
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 20
Usefullness
: 20
Bonus
: 0
Comments: PSPDictionary is a dictionary and multi-language translator. You can connect to sites online and translate a word or phrase from one language to another! It has a decent interface, but the real meat of the project is in the originality and usefullness. Bonus for being open source, points off for being a previous entry.70/100

SNES9X Euphoria
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6301.0.html)
Graphics
: 0
Sound
: 0
Controls
: 0
Originality
: 0
Usefullness
: 0
Bonus
: 5
Comments: This one is hard to score. While it's a phenominal project, the vast majority of it isn't the author's. It's a minor set of improvements to an existing emulation that has been worked on by a bunch of people over the years, including myself! In the end, I can only give points for the minor changes made to a huge project.5/100

Ultimate VSH Menu Final
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6265.0.html)
Graphics
: 0
Sound
: 0
Controls
: 0
Originality
: 0
Usefullness
: 20
Bonus
: -5
Comments: This is also another hard one to score. VSH menus are a dime a dozen on the PSP, and this one adds very little to the ones already out. In the end, he only gets points for usefullness. Points OFF for put a donation link on his entry post. How lame is that?15/100


MD Games

Space Pixy
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6297.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 15
Fun
: 15
Bonus
: 5
Comments: Space Pixy is a little hard to explain - just play it! Bonus for being REALLY retro!70/100


NDS Games

24. Swap-DS
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6271.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 0
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 10
Bonus
: 0
Comments: It may have an odd name, but this is a slide puzzle game. You can adjust the number of pieces the image is cut into to set the difficulty. Depending on how much you like slide puzzles, this may or may not be any fun.45/100

Agent 8
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6306.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 5
Bonus
: 0
Comments: This is pretty much an old-fashioned dungeon crawl with one type on enemy. Pretty simple graphics, but it's not a bad game.45/100

Bilou: Apple Assault
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6275.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 10
Bonus
: 5
Comments: An odd game, but the graphics are pretty decent. Bonus for open source.60/100

Breakout!
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6267.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 5
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 5
Fun
: 15
Bonus
: 0
Comments: Your typical breakout game, but with 3D blocks. Nice change for an otherwise unoriginal game. Well executed, it's pretty fun. You know what to expect, and it doesn't let you down.50/100

Chapas GP
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6303.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 5
Controls
: 5
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 10
Bonus
: 0
Comments: Chapas GP is an overhead racing game... with bottle caps. I'm not much for stylus controlled racing games, but it looks good.45/100

Chewing Boy
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6312.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 5
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 15
Fun
: 15
Bonus
: 0
Comments: Here's a pretty original game - all you can do is jump. Retro graphics and gameplay make this a pretty outstanding game.60/100

DSPaintball
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6278.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 15
Fun
: 15
Bonus
: 5
Comments: DSPaintball is a puzzle game - try to get a ball from point A to B by drawing lines in the proper place. It actually works rather well, and is really fun... unless you don't like these kinds of games. Bonus for making you think.70/100

Duyu Mania
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6290.0.html)
Graphics
: 20
Sound
: 18
Controls
: 18
Originality
: 18
Fun
: 20
Bonus
: 5
Comments: Duyu Mania is THE game to play this compo. Amazing graphics and sound, it combines a platformer with a puzzle game to good effect. The controls are spot on - very important in this sort of game. This could easily be a commercial game. Bonus for being a puzzle game.99/100

Epic Caveman
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6277.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 5
Controls
: 5
Originality
: 5
Fun
: 0
Bonus
: 0
Comments: Epic Caveman is anything but. All you do is try to time your jumps as the screen scrolls past you. I was playing this back in the 80's on the Atari under the name "Aztec Challenge", but at least Aztec Challenge gave you three different height jumps. This gives you one. Decent graphics for a homebrew, but that's it.25/100

Flake Out! DS
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6309.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 5
Originality
: 15
Fun
: 0
Bonus
: 5
Comments: Overly complicated, Flake Out is a pain to play. It's really hard to do the right thing at the right time. It's original, I like the Xmas music, and the graphics are smooth, but it's just not fun. Bonus for motion support45/100

Lode Runner Return
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6270.0.html)
Graphics
: 5
Sound
: 5
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 0
Fun
: 10
Bonus
: 0
Comments: It's Lode Runner. What else is there to say? Is it an emulation? Is it a recreation? In the end, it doesn't matter. You have the same bad graphics, same bad sound, and same game play. If you loved Lode Runner on the Apple 2, you'll probably play it. No originality here.30/100

Plus ou Moins DS
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6248.0.html)
Graphics
: 5
Sound
: 5
Controls
: 5
Originality
: 0
Fun
: 5
Bonus
: 5
Comments: Plus or Minus... see how quickly you can narrow down the number. Fun for all of 30 seconds, you'd have to be really bored to play this for longer than a minute. Bonus for open source.25/100

Pokemon - Ghost Black - Retold
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6299.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 5
Controls
: 5
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 0
Bonus
: 0
Comments: This isn't a game, it's a visual novel. It's a story told with pictures and sound, and as such, it's okay once. After that, you'll never touch it again. No replay value at all, and nothing to do but turn the page.30/100

Puzzli
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6276.0.html)
Graphics
: 17
Sound
: 18
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 15
Fun
: 17
Bonus
: 5
Comments: Puzzli is a puzzle game in the form of a fishing contest. Try to remove all the fish. A strong contender, but just falling short of the top spot. Bonus for being a puzzle game.87/100

Sam and Max - The Hangman Game
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6257.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 5
Originality
: 5
Fun
: 15
Bonus
: 5
Comments: This is hangman with copyrighted graphics and sound. Nice job... it could keep you occupied for a while. Bonus for being a puzzle game.55/100

Scribble Jump DS
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6239.0.html)
Graphics
: 5
Sound
: 5
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 5
Bonus
: 5
Comments: Bounce your way up the platforms. Err - that's pretty much it. Bonus for motion support.40/100

Sokoban Touch & Go!
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6244.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 10
Bonus
: 5
Comments: It's sokoban! Err- you probably won't know what sokoban is unless you've played it. Nice implementation. Bonus for being a puzzle game.65/100

Speed Trap
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6236.0.html)
Graphics
: 18
Sound
: 15
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 15
Fun
: 20
Bonus
: 0
Comments: Another top down racer, but this time with cars! Very good graphics and sound.83/100

SquarO
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6295.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 5
Bonus
: 5
Comments: It's a puzzle game with a little bit of sudoku and minesweeper. I suppose it's okay if you like that. Bonus for being a puzzle game.50/100

Super Extreme Smile
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6225.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 5
Bonus
: 10
Comments: A maze game where you move by rotating the maze, then falling. Interesting, but pretty rudimentary graphics and sound. Bonus for being a maze game. Bonus for motion support55/100

Super Smash Bros Crash! DS
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6256.0.html)
Graphics
: 18
Sound
: 17
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 0
Fun
: 17
Bonus
: -2
Comments: A recreation of Smash Bros for the DS. A lot of work went into this. It even has some new characters from recent anime series. Points off for being a previous entry, but not 5 off because it didn't place in the top 10.65/100


PSP Games

4S: Side Scrolling Space Shooter
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6291.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 5
Fun
: 10
Bonus
: 0
Comments: Just what it says -  a side-scrolling shmup. Nice try, but just not up to the top level compared to other entries.45/100

Age of Nations
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6286.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 15
Fun
: 15
Bonus
: 5
Comments: This is a RTS like Age of Empires. A VERY good entry. Bonus for being in LUA.75/100

BreakOut4PSP
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6305.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 5
Fun
: 10
Bonus
: 5
Comments: Yet another breakout clone. Nothing special here. Bonus for being open source.50/100

Mario Fusion
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6287.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 5
Fun
: 15
Bonus
: 0
Comments: Yet another Mario clone. Not bad - worth playing.60/100

Mario Masochism
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6296.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 5
Fun
: 5
Bonus
: 0
Comments: And yet another Mario clone. This one tries to be different by making it nearly impossible to play and claiming it's for masochists. Not fun at all.50/100

PSP Bot
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6308.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 20
Fun
: 20
Bonus
: 10
Comments: In the top ten this year. This is a puzzle game you solve by "programming" a simple bot to turn on light. Very addictive and fun! Double bonus for being both a puzzle game AND open source!85/100

PSPokemon
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6251.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 5
Fun
: 15
Bonus
: 0
Comments: Pokemon for the PSP. Well done... fun if you're into pokemon.60/100

Portable Bubble
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6289.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 5
Fun
: 5
Bonus
: 5
Comments: A Puzzle Bobble clone for the PSP. Some people like this type of game... I'm not one of them. Double bonus for being a puzzle game and open source. Points off for being a previous entry.50/100

Save the Castle
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6243.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 15
Fun
: 5
Bonus
: 5
Comments: Shoot the monsters before they reach the castle! Shoot you will - and reach the castle they will. This game was fun... when I was 9. I'm not 9 anymore. Bonus for being in LUA.55/100

Simon Says
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6293.0.html)
Graphics
: 5
Sound
: 5
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 5
Bonus
: 5
Comments: Simon for the PSP. It will keep your 7 year-olds entertained for a few minutes. Bonus for being in LUA.40/100

Toy Wars Demo
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6218.0.html)
Graphics
: 20
Sound
: 20
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 15
Fun
: 15
Bonus
: 0
Comments: A really awesome game. Even as just a demo, this looks, sounds, and plays very well. If it hadn't been a demo, it would be the #1 game by a wide margin.85/100

Undead Terror Demo
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6279.0.html)
Graphics
: 15
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 10
Originality
: 15
Fun
: 10
Bonus
: 5
Comments: Shoot the monsters before they reach the castle! Err - wait, that was the other game. These games are so alike, I thought they were by the same person. This game is slightly better, but still only fun for 9 year-olds. Bonus for open source.65/100


Wii Games

NanoMechas
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6314.0.html)
Graphics
: 18
Sound
: 17
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 10
Bonus
: 0
Comments: I'll say this right off - I don't have a Wii, nor was I able to get Dolphin to run the game, so this review is based on the YouTube video. The game is a shooter. It looks and sounds good. But then, it IS a Wii.70/100

Scape
: link (http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,6281.0.html)
Graphics
: 10
Sound
: 10
Controls
: 15
Originality
: 10
Fun
: 15
Bonus
: 5
Comments: I'll say this right off - I don't have a Wii, nor was I able to get Dolphin to run the game, so this review is based on the YouTube video. This is a puzzle game. Rather primitive graphics, but still looks pretty interesting. Bonus for being a puzzle game.65/100

Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 04, 2010, 03:31:16 AM
To make the rankings easier to tell, and because some games/apps tied, here are the tables by rank. Where a tie occurred, I put the one I like better before the one I didn't.

Apps

Jazzier:         75
PSPDictionary:   70
GeneScript:      70
fb4nds:          70
Avia:            70
Hunter:          60
Online Jukebox:  55
Etch:            55
DScriptor:       55
SMPlayer:        50
Tirada 2:        50
Pixelart:        40
Cristal Vista:   40
Ult VSH Menu:    15
DSLamp:          15
SNES9X Euphoria:  5

Games

Duyu Mania:      99
Puzzli:          87
PSP Bot:         85
Toy Wars:        85
Speed Trap:      83
Age of Nations:  75
DSPaintball:     70
Space Pixy:      70
NanoMechas:      70
Super Smash Bros:65
Scape:           65
Sokoban:         65
Undead Terror:   65
Chewing Boy:     60
Bilou:           60
Mario Fusion:    60
PSPokemon:       60
Sam & Max:       55
Super Extreme:   55
Save the Castle: 55
Portable Bubble: 50
Breakout!(NDS):  50
Breakout4PSP:    50
SquarO:          50
Mario Masochism: 50
24. Swap-DS:     45
Agent 8:         45
4S Shooter:      45
Chapas GP:       45
Flake Out:       45
Scribble Jump:   40
Simon Says:      40
Lode Runner:     30
Ghost Black:     30
Plus or Minus:   25
Epic Caveman:    25
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Gefa on September 04, 2010, 03:46:37 AM
Goog reviews. Just one thing about my Portable Bubble. Besides being a puzzle game, it is open source too (so it shoud take, following your logic, 10 bonus points)
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: mic_ on September 04, 2010, 04:24:34 AM
Yeah, except that bonus points for "being a puzzle game" makes no sense in the first place  :P
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 04, 2010, 04:27:39 AM
Goog reviews. Just one thing about my Portable Bubble. Besides being a puzzle game, it is open source too (so it shoud take, following your logic, 10 bonus points)

Thanks! Adjusted. I'm not feeling too good right now, so I might miss things.  ~sm-39.gif~

Yeah, except that bonus points for "being a puzzle game" makes no sense in the first place  :P

Yes it does. Games that make you think versus mindless games. In my opinion (which all that matters for my reviews), that deserves extra points. You can ignore that in your reviews if you so desire.  :D
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: mic_ on September 04, 2010, 04:55:03 AM
It just seemed to me like your "Fun" column could've sufficed for reflecting how much you enjoyed game A compared to game B, rather than having a blanket bonus for belonging to a certain genre regardless of whether the game was any good or not. But maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 04, 2010, 05:05:14 AM
It just seemed to me like your "Fun" column could've sufficed for reflecting how much you enjoyed game A compared to game B, rather than having a blanket bonus for belonging to a certain genre regardless of whether the game was any good or not. But maybe that's just me.

Probably, but it was easier in my mind to keep one category for fun/useful for games/apps, and then an extra category for BONUS points for something not necessarily related to fun/useful, like open source/educational/makes you think/required extra programming effort/provides something not related to the program itself/you get the idea.
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Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: leooomichel on September 04, 2010, 06:05:57 AM
Thanks vor reviewing.
Maybe it's a stupid question, but why Lua progs got Extra Points? I mean... C is harder than Lua... (just asking, that's your review after all :p)
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 04, 2010, 06:38:43 AM
Thanks vor reviewing.
Maybe it's a stupid question, but why Lua progs got Extra Points? I mean... C is harder than Lua... (just asking, that's your review after all :p)

Open source versus closed source, not LUA versus C. A number of the open source programs that got extra points were C or python. If I missed a program that's open source, point it out and I'll adjust it like I did for Gefa.
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Conle on September 04, 2010, 08:13:13 AM
Finally a review.   ~sm-70.gif~.gif

By the way , one thing to note.You need to give a few extra points to apps that support Neo Motion and non original entries get some kind of penalty.

For example :
Code: [Select]
Support Motion: ???

YES = The entry supports Neo motion=> It gets some extra points like 5~10% of 100
NO = Nothing

Code: [Select]
Original entry: ???
YES = First time submitted => It gets some extra points like 5~10% of 100
NO = Nothing , the entry has been previously here.


Anyway , good luck with your review  ~sm-42.gif~
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: linoma on September 04, 2010, 09:16:15 AM
sound : 0? Please read the source code. There is the 3D sound. You cant listen well because we have only 2 speakers. ::sm-23.gif::
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 04, 2010, 09:18:15 AM
Finally a review.   ~sm-70.gif~.gif

By the way , one thing to note.You need to give a few extra points to apps that support Neo Motion and non original entries get some kind of penalty.

For example :
Code: [Select]
Support Motion: ???

YES = The entry supports Neo motion=> It gets some extra points like 5~10% of 100
NO = Nothing

Code: [Select]
Original entry: ???
YES = First time submitted => It gets some extra points like 5~10% of 100
NO = Nothing , the entry has been previously here.


Anyway , good luck with your review  ~sm-42.gif~

Almost forgot about that... to make it easier, here's a list of non-original entries:
Super Smash Bros
Port Bubble (placed in top 10)
PSP Dictionary (placed in top 10)

and a list of games that support motion:
Super Extreme Smile
Flake Out
Scribble Jump
Avia
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 04, 2010, 09:20:13 AM
sound : 0? Please read the source code. There is the 3D sound. You cant listen well because we have only 2 speakers. ::sm-23.gif::

Like 3D sound is important for a FaceBook client. I guess I'll give you a few points for it.
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: linoma on September 04, 2010, 09:25:54 AM
It'snt very  important for this app, but 0 for sound.  ~sm-92.gif~.gif
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 04, 2010, 09:31:49 AM
It'snt very  important for this app, but 0 for sound.  ~sm-92.gif~.gif

Yeah, so I did bump it up.
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: linoma on September 04, 2010, 09:34:07 AM
bue it's an excellent example. No? :( Anyway thanks for 5 points.
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 04, 2010, 09:57:02 AM
bue it's an excellent example. No? :( Anyway thanks for 5 points.

Yes, it is a good example, and I did give other programs more points on sound that aren't as good an example. Now you have 10 points for the sound, mostly for being a good example, which you can thank being open source for or you wouldn't get it.  >:( 

That did bump you up a slot.  ~sm-56.gif~.gif
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Conle on September 04, 2010, 10:19:35 AM

Almost forgot about that... to make it easier, here's a list of non-original entries:
Super Smash Bros
Port Bubble (placed in top 10)
PSP Dictionary (placed in top 10)

and a list of games that support motion:
Super Extreme Smile
Flake Out
Scribble Jump
Avia

It has happened to me once right before i submitted my review  ~sm-34.gif~ ,and since my review was generated
by a small script(even the calculated score/list) it took me about a hour to fix the reviews of that division due to the complex theme and point system which
had Real numbers.

 ~sm-73.gif~.gif I just don't want to remember this.  ~sm-70.gif~.gif
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 04, 2010, 11:02:36 AM
There's so few of either that you just quit looking after the first half dozen reviews.  ~sm-75.gif~.gif
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: BassAceGold on September 04, 2010, 01:03:22 PM
Not really sure that I agree with the categories used in the reviews (sound, graphics and usefulness don't seem right to me in app reviews), but good reviews none the less.  :)
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Gefa on September 04, 2010, 01:39:44 PM
Always about Portable Bubble, why only 5 points for "fun"? Don't you like playing Puzzle Bubble? :-)
and why only 10 points for the sound?  ::sm-03:: in my opinion the sound is one of the better thing of this game
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Conle on September 04, 2010, 02:17:56 PM
Gefa,the purpose of having a review collection zone is so that users can post their personal reviews,toplists and share their thoughts.
Not every reviewer is going to like your game--that's just example,because (for example) , last year i enjoyed your entry-- and you can't change his mind either  ::sm-07.gif::

If that makes you happy , don't forget that reviews get judged.  ~sm-51.gif~.gif

ps--You can also make your own reviews if you wish.There's still alot of time.
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Aleomark on September 04, 2010, 03:36:56 PM
maybe not a lot of time but it's a personal opinion, I've read all the reviews and the creators got very defensive, remember contest reviews aren't going to be like judges. Anyways let's wait more reviews... like mine...  ~sm-66.gif~.gif
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: leooomichel on September 04, 2010, 05:18:25 PM
Open source versus closed source, not LUA versus C. A number of the open source programs that got extra points were C or python. If I missed a program that's open source, point it out and I'll adjust it like I did for Gefa.

Uh yeah, mea culpa, I didn't notice that Lua apps didn't have points for beeing open-source, in that way it makes lot more sense, open-source definitely deserve those points.
As others compos reach end, I'm about to release source, probably too late for compo, but that might help some people.
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: corenting on September 04, 2010, 08:28:06 PM
Thank you for the first true review !
And sorry but DSLamp and PlusOuMoins DS (you know the last game and almost the last app :D) are open source :
DSLamp source : http://code.google.com/p/corenting-applications/source/browse/#svn/trunk/Lampe
PlusOuMoins DS :http://code.google.com/p/corenting-applications/source/browse/#svn/trunk/PlusOuMoins
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: davidgf on September 04, 2010, 08:49:42 PM
Hey! Toy Wars is (will be) opensource. Just waiting some contest to pass to publish the source code.
All the libs are BSD licensed, but I'll release the code for ethic reasons (the ME code uses your code!! xD).

Great review BTW! You do like puzzle games!
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Total_Noob on September 04, 2010, 09:40:06 PM
Tell me, why is the Originality of Ultimate VSH Menu 0?
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 05, 2010, 12:05:45 AM
Hey! Toy Wars is (will be) opensource. Just waiting some contest to pass to publish the source code.
All the libs are BSD licensed, but I'll release the code for ethic reasons (the ME code uses your code!! xD).

Great review BTW! You do like puzzle games!

Yes, I do like puzzle games quite a bit.  :D

Also, WILL BE open source is like WILL HAVE this or that feature... can't really count it in the contest NOW. Sorry.

Tell me, why is the Originality of Ultimate VSH Menu 0?

Because VSH's for the PSP are a dime a dozen. It's like expecting points on originality for a "Hello World" program.  ~sm-79.gif~.gif

Thank you for the first true review !
And sorry but DSLamp and PlusOuMoins DS (you know the last game and almost the last app :D) are open source :
DSLamp source : http://code.google.com/p/corenting-applications/source/browse/#svn/trunk/Lampe
PlusOuMoins DS :http://code.google.com/p/corenting-applications/source/browse/#svn/trunk/PlusOuMoins

Thanks you for pointing that out... I'll make the adjustments. EDIT: Hey! The extra points on Plus or Minus allowed my to move it ahead of Epic Caveman! You're now not last in that category.  ~sm-82.gif~.gif  While DSLamp tied with Ult VSH, I still feel Ult VSH is a little more useful, so I left their relative ranking alone. Sorry.

As to the review, I was a bit under the weather the last couple days (feeling better now), so I spent it playing games... and writing notes. So I just put it all together yesterday and posted. I know these are supposed to be up by the 5th... a lot of reviewers are really cutting it close.
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Jovin on September 05, 2010, 12:11:22 AM
ChillyWilly,
Do you play nds games on an emulator or on a device?
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 05, 2010, 12:22:50 AM
ChilliWilly,
Do you play nds games on an emulator or on a device?

Emulator. I checked out the subversion repo for DeSmuME and compiled it for my system. It was the only way to get many of the programs to work. In any case, I'm sure some would probably be better on a real NDS. I might try to find a nice cheap used one towards the end of the year. Between having to compile the very latest DeSmuME and turning some game's contents into a fat image, it was more work than I really wanted to do. Might have influenced a score or two...  ::sm-02::

I used a real PSP, a nice Silver PSP2001 with CFW 5.00M33-6, a real N64, and what else was there... ah yes, I tried to setup the latest Dolphin to try out the Wii games since Dolphin is supposed to run some Wii stuff; unfortunately, I wasn't able to get that working, so I settled for watching the YouTub videos. I mentioned that in the reviews. So I suppose you can discount the Wii reviews. Oh yes, I ran Space Pixy on Gens/GS and on real hardware with the MD Myth... it crashes on real hardware when you try to enter a level. There's a game that HAS to be judged on an emulator!  >:D
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Jovin on September 05, 2010, 12:55:46 AM
Quote
In any case, I'm sure some would probably be better on a real NDS.

You note that playability is different in case of some games.
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Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: leooomichel on September 05, 2010, 11:36:47 AM
Just wana say that Undead Terror Demo is open source too (http://undeadterror.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/undeadterror/Undead%20Terror/) (I just forgot it was, shame on me  ::sm-03::), actuals source are truely ugly, we are working to fix that :)   ~sm-91.gif~.gif
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 05, 2010, 01:36:42 PM
Just wana say that Undead Terror Demo is open source too (http://undeadterror.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/undeadterror/Undead%20Terror/) (I just forgot it was, shame on me  ::sm-03::), actuals source are truely ugly, we are working to fix that :)   ~sm-91.gif~.gif

Nice! That bumped you a couple spots, but it's still not too high on my list. Just in time - everything is frozen on the 5th as that's the end of judging.

Ugly sources are better than no sources at all.  :D  This is just the sort of game I liked to play when I was little, so I'm sure plenty of people will enjoy playing it now. Really, it's like Missile Command, but with zombies.  ~sm-79.gif~.gif  One Saturday many years ago, I played Missile Command on the 2600 ALL DAY until I wrapped the score around. Took about 18 hours. I just can't do that anymore, but it did remind me of that day. I almost gave this and Save the Castle extra points just for reminding me of that. Almost.  ~sm-63.gif~.gif
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 06, 2010, 01:04:44 AM
Gave Bilous Apple Assault bonus points for open source... in fact, it's kind of an example done for the GameEditorDS tools.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dsgametools/files/
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Gaz on September 06, 2010, 07:16:50 AM
Thank-you for the review and position :)

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Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 06, 2010, 07:42:22 AM
Thank-you for the review and position :)

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No problem. While any one of the features in your app wouldn't have merited a top position, having all of them together makes it a good teaching tool for music, and I think music is important.
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Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Gaz on September 06, 2010, 08:11:36 AM
Music is improtant on so many level  8)

And more importantly for me, to develop a music application on the DS and move myself away from the PC.  I spend far too many hours in front of the PC and indoors, it's so nice to be able to practice on the move and at lesuire,  (large part of the reasoning behind the app).
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: DesertDog on September 06, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
Hey everyone,

Just want to state that being open source is not a prerequisite for the competition.

This reviewer has chosen to make open source a criteria in his/her reviews, which they are entitled to do.

However, your final official ranking will not be influenced by whether your code is open source or not.

- M:O
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 06, 2010, 09:07:44 AM
Hey everyone,

Just want to state that being open source is not a prerequisite for the competition.

This reviewer has chosen to make open source a criteria in his/her reviews, which they are entitled to do.

However, your final official ranking will not be influenced by whether your code is open source or not.

- M:O

Yes, quite. I'm a programmer, so it was somewhat important to me... just enough to warrant a few extra points. You'll notice I made it the same as making an educational/thinking program. Other reviewers will have their own ideas and priorities. One reviewer has already remarked that fun/usefulness is not part of his reviews either. That's entirely up to him, and I have no qualms about it. It's why the contest has multiple people reviewing the entries - the more reviews, the better as then you will cover more viewpoints leading to a better overall view of the entries.
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Nacho Cuesta on September 06, 2010, 06:48:38 PM
Hey, thanks for your incredible score to Duyumania  ;D
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: ChillyWilly on September 06, 2010, 11:56:46 PM
Hey, thanks for your incredible score to Duyumania  ;D

It was #1 or 2 for everybody, I think. It's almost certainly this year's winner. If not, it should be.  ~sm-65.gif~.gif
Title: Re: Reviews by Chilly Willy
Post by: Dr.neo on September 11, 2010, 09:04:30 PM
Almost forgot about that... to make it easier, here's a list of non-original entries:
Super Smash Bros
Port Bubble (placed in top 10)
PSP Dictionary (placed in top 10)

and a list of games that support motion:
Super Extreme Smile
Flake Out
Scribble Jump
Avia

thanks for your mention  ~sm-41.gif~