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Title: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on November 28, 2012, 06:12:34 PM
New SNK ARCADE MVS  Magic Key released!

Here is neo team new product: SNK MVS Magic Key + MVS convertor 2in1 !


NEO SNK MVS-Magic Key Spec:

* MVS to AES convertor function, let your AES home console to play the MVS arcade cartridge (not support the clone multi MVS cartridge)
* SNK game cheat code,support all SNK MVS original arcade cartridge
* SNK game region select,it can change something in the game,like the language and "FATFURY" motion efect
* 8Mb game rom is modifiable
* Can upgrade Magic Key BIOS via USB port, plug and upgrade
* Can upgrade the CPLD hard core via NDP kit

(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-04.jpg)
 
[1] Product view
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-01.JPG)
 
[2] How to use? Very simple, just need insert the MVS cart to the NEO MVS Magic Key, then plug into the SNK console,power on, that's all.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-02.JPG)

[3] When power on the neogeo console, it will show one menu to let you select which game region you want with this game , use A/B/C button to select it.

(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-05.JPG)

Note: If you press this button and turn on NEOGEO console, it'll bypass the Magic Key function and run as a normal original SNK cartridge.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-18.JPG)

[4] If you don't do anything it will auto pass after few seconds and use the default game region to start the game.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-06.JPG)

[5] In the game , you can press "SELECT"+"START" buttons together to call the cheat code menu out in any time.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-07.JPG)

[6] Use button "A" to enable which cheat code you want to active, use "UP" and "DOWN" pad to move, and press button "C" to return to game and play continue.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-08.JPG)

[7] Now you can see the cheat code working :P
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-09.JPG)

[8] If you want to disable the current cheat code function, press "SELECT"+"START" in any time, then you can back to cheat code menu again.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-10.JPG)

[9] Use button "A" to disable the cheat code, or use button "B" to disable all cheat code at once.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-11.JPG)

[10] Now the game back to the normal mode.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-12.JPG)

[11] This device support all MVS original games, here is some more screenshots.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-13.JPG)
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-14.JPG)
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-15.JPG)
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-16.JPG)
 
[12] The retail packing.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-MK-03.JPG)
 
 
How to upgrade the SNK Magic Key BIOS file

[1] Firstly you need install the "The SMS4 & MD & N64 & SNES & PC-E Myth flash cart_ Pro programmer V1.30 [Jan.15 2012] .exe" , if you have installed it already just pass this step.

[2] Unzip the "snk magic key bios file.rar" , you will get 3 files:
Neo-SNK-MagicKey_8Mb.xml and 2 BIN files.
Copy these 2 BIN files to the "D:\" folder , and copy "Neo-SNK-MagicKey_8Mb.xml" this file to "C:\Program Files (x86)\NEO2\Manager\Kernal_Kit\BATCH" this folder IF your system is WIN7 ; otherwise copy it to "C:\Program Files\NEO2\Manager\Kernal_Kit\BATCH" .

[3] Then click and run the "NEO2 Kit Kernal" from your PC desk
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/snk-mk-icon.gif)

[4] Now you can see this app screen.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/snk-mk-b0.gif)

[5] Use the USB cable to link the SNK Magic-Key and PC USB port,please ignore the error message.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-USB-1.JPG)
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/MVS-USB-2.JPG)
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/snk-mk-b1.gif)

[6] Press the "Start To Burn" button, then start to upgrade MagicKey bios, please note the LED of MagicKey will not light during the whole BIOS upgrade process.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/snk-mk-b2.gif)

[7] It will start to verify after the burning complete.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/snk-mk-b3.gif)

[8] When it done, you can plug it into your console to enjoy the MagicKey with new BIOS function.
(http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/snk-mk-b4.gif)

If you have any more question, please visit our forum --- http://www.neoflash.com
 
--- NeoTeAm 2012
 

online manual --- http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/Neo_SNK_ARCADE_MVS_Magic_Key_1.htm (http://www.neoflash.com/SNK_Magic/Neo_SNK_ARCADE_MVS_Magic_Key_1.htm)
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: wraggster on December 10, 2012, 06:20:35 AM
looks awesome will post news on dcemu :)
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: SolderPCB on January 17, 2013, 10:40:45 PM
Does this still have the same scaling issues as the previous converter?

Having previously bought a Super MVS II Converter it had scaling issues with games like Art of Fighting and Samurai Showdown etc.

I don't want to buy another product for $238 that has the same issues.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Silpheed on March 16, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
Just received mine. No scaling issue this time !

Do i need to update it with the firmware found on the CD ?

Thanks
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on March 22, 2013, 03:18:13 PM
Just received mine. No scaling issue this time !

Do i need to update it with the firmware found on the CD ?

Thanks

sure, the scaling issue just exist in the past NEO converter V1, the 2011 version have solved  this issue perfectly already, now the neo magic key is 2013 version, the #3 generation :D

you don't need update the firmware from CD,it's same with your current one. but we have v2.0 beta firmware solved the AOF2 cheat code issue perfectly  (thanks RAZ a lot  :-*), if you want to test please PM me,will mail to you for testing, the final version is coming soon.  ~sm-57.gif~.gif
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: gerard7209 on November 15, 2013, 08:41:28 PM
Hello I am french and I own a Magic Key 2. I've got a question:
Is it possible to go the "General Bios Settings" (who normally is in in each unibios) because I would like to configure the number of credits in game(the "Cheat Database" only permit to have unlimited credit". Thanks for your answer.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on November 16, 2013, 07:06:10 AM
no, you just can select the "unlimited credit" in the magickey cheat code menu.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: raditz on February 12, 2014, 04:53:02 PM
Hi,
this converter is near perfect, but in our french Neo Geo forum, we found several problems on these games :

- Pulstar: the activation of several cheats is rebooting the game
- Super Sidekicks: Controller doesn't respond after a few minutes
- The King Of Fighters 01: the menu is inactive if the bios is enabled
- World Heroes: the game starts only if the bios is disabled

The link of the test : http://www.neogeo-system.com/t1602-mvs-magic-key-converter-in-disneyland

I don't know if a software update is possible to fix them ?
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on February 15, 2014, 04:54:20 AM
i think you need change your SNK ac adapter ,to test again.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: raditz on February 15, 2014, 06:57:31 PM
Lol !
We are 10 to have these problems, I use a new custom ac adapter...
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Willza562 on February 25, 2014, 07:51:34 AM
Can the SNK Super MVS plus 2011 version be updated in any way to perform like this version? I'm just looking to see if the scaling issues can be fixed. I all ready have a Unibios installed on my AES.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: foster711 on February 28, 2014, 06:01:39 AM
Hi Dr Neo and any other experts out there.  I have a magic key 2013 (blue) version 2 mvs to aes converter that I originally purchased to use with my 161 in 1 multicart.  I've been using it with this cart for about 6 months now and it has been working fairly well (there are a few audio issues).  Recently, I purchased two original snk mvs carts to use with it.  The carts are Galaxy Fight and Metal Slug 5.  Unfortunately neither one of them is working with the Magic Key.  With Galaxy Fight the system basically does nothing.  I get a completely blank screen.  With Metal Slug 5 I get the Neo Geo pro spec splash screen which is completely clear and then it takes me the title screen only it is completely garbelled and the game will not start at all.  If I hit the reset button a few times I can see the magic key flash screen which shows I am using version 2.0.  Anyway, I don't know what else to do and am looking for help.  I have a 1st generation AES (serial 19xxx) and I am using a 5v 3 amp ac adapter.  Finally, I had my system moded with composite, s video, and component output.  Also, I had the reset button lit up, unibios 3.1 added (which I removed and replaced with the original as part of testing) and a switch added for overclocking (which I never use).  Please help!
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on March 12, 2014, 05:00:42 AM
Willza562, you can use NDP to upgrade the core for fix the scaling issues with converter 2011.

foster711, if the 161in1 working with magickey fine, then it's not the magickey issue, you need use alcohol to clean these 2 snk cart's golden finger, i can sure it's the snk cart connection not good to cause this issue.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: foster711 on March 13, 2014, 04:51:47 AM
Hi Dr. Neo.  Thank you for your reply. 

Per you suggestion, I took apart each of my three original SNK MVS carts (I recently purchased a copy of Shock Troopers), and cleaned them thoroughly with a pencil eraser and then wiped them clean with alcohol until they shined like brand new.  Unfortunately, it made no difference at all.  I am having the same exact problems as described before. 

Is there anything else I can try?  I am will to ship the unit to you so you can see the problems first hand.

I appreciate any help I can get.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on March 15, 2014, 05:29:38 PM
hi foster711, the 161in1 working perfect still ?
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: foster711 on March 16, 2014, 06:14:58 AM
Hi Dr Neo - yes, the 161in1 is still working great. 

In an effort to eliminate my system as the problem, a local store had an un moded Japanese Neo Geo and I took the Magic Key converter and games there to test it on their system.  Unfortunately, it had exactly the same issues that I am seeing on my unit and the 161in1 worked on their unit.

I also cleaned the carts again with steel wool just to be sure and it also did not help.

My offer to send the Magic Key converter to you still stands or I can also send you videos.  Thank you for your reply.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: foster711 on March 29, 2014, 07:31:42 PM
Hi - just an update for anyone reading this post.  I worked with Dr Neo on my converter issues.  Before sending it back to him for repair, he agreed to let me open it up and see if I could figure out the issue.  I found that one of the prongs from the cartridge input slot was not soldered to the joining strip.  After soldering it down, everything is working great. 

I'd like thank Dr Neo for his support and am very glad that we got the issue fixed.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: LittleNinja on April 30, 2014, 04:06:43 AM
Hello, I am new to the forums and before I purchase the 120p MVS Magic Key, there's some questions which I would like to clarify before I buy the product.

1) Does the 161 in 1 still work with the latest MVS Arcade Magic key?
2) I heard from some people that you would need to hold the button on the magic key in order to boot the 161 multigame cart. If that is the case, does the cheats still work in the games?

Thanks
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: aha2940 on May 25, 2014, 01:26:33 AM
Hi

No, if you press the button to boot a game, it will disable the UniBIOS included in the adapter, therefore the cheats will not work.

Regards.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: kasra dr on July 10, 2015, 02:32:39 PM
hi i Bought neo mvs magic key converter (green version) in The first month of 2015 and I did not use to be this month.my aes japan version 10v and not work with 161 in 1 muti cartridge When I choose region in first menu The light turns green and Nothing will happen or will be black screen.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: kasra dr on July 11, 2015, 11:05:52 PM
the 161in1 is  working great.i pushed the button on my neo mvs converter.My problem was resolved.it's working like mercedes benz
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on July 12, 2015, 06:58:18 AM
the 161in1 is  working great.i pushed the button on my neo mvs converter.My problem was resolved.it's working like mercedes benz
~sm-82.gif~.gif ~sm-82.gif~.gif ~sm-82.gif~.gif
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: aha2940 on August 21, 2015, 06:07:07 AM
Hi Dr. Neo

I have the 2013 (blue) version of the MVS converter. Can it be upgraded to the software of the 2016 version? it seems the 2016 version is compatible with NGDev games, but the 2013 I have is not compatible.

Thanks!!
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on August 23, 2015, 09:18:30 AM
can you give me the  NGDev games titles or links, i need to test it before answer your question.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: aha2940 on August 23, 2015, 11:23:12 AM
can you give me the  NGDev games titles or links, i need to test it before answer your question.

These are all the NGDev games:
http://www.ngdevteam.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=5&Itemid=29
but there are no roms for them or anything. I have two of them in MVS cart (Gunlord and Razion), and can help you test if you need/want to.

Regards.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on August 24, 2015, 07:43:54 AM
Quote
but the 2013 I have is not compatible.
ok,can you try to press the magickey black button when you power on console,to see can run Gunlord and Razion in this way or not?
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: aha2940 on August 30, 2015, 07:10:16 AM
Hi Dr. Neo

That was the first test I made, I tried holding the button on boot (because that works fine for the 161-in-1 cart) but it did not work with Razion nor Gunlord. They still hang at the initial "Please wait" screen.

However I have read that the green new converters do work fine with these games, can the code inside the green converters be applied to the blue ones so those work too?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on September 02, 2015, 08:59:45 AM
strange, the new 2016 magickey just re-design the schematic ,and use the same code , i don't know why some green converter can work, maybe that's the old MVS converter 2011?
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: aha2940 on September 02, 2015, 11:55:18 AM
strange, the new 2016 magickey just re-design the schematic ,and use the same code , i don't know why some green converter can work, maybe that's the old MVS converter 2011?

I do not think it is the 2011 version, I bought it in 2013 I think. How can I identify if it is the 2011 or the 2013 version?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on September 02, 2015, 04:44:47 PM
2011 version without the magickey function,and the button is no function.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: aha2940 on September 02, 2015, 09:13:12 PM
2011 version without the magickey function,and the button is no function.

Then mine is the 2013 version for sure. It has the button and the magickey function. It even came with the scaling issues already fixed, I did not have to update the core or anything. Strange. Any other ideas on why these games may work with the green converter but not the blue one?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on September 04, 2015, 12:12:59 AM
if so,the only one reason will be the connection. maybe your NGDev game cart's PCB thickness slightly thin ... you can try to use needle to pick the 2013 magickey socket's pins out a little, to make it come with more pressure, and try again.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: refcom on December 01, 2015, 01:17:50 AM
Hi,

I bought The Neo MVS-Magic key (I think is the newer version) and I have some doubts:

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee170/djrefcom/WP_20151201_00_14_18_Pro_zpspbohfqv7.jpg) (http://s229.photobucket.com/user/djrefcom/media/WP_20151201_00_14_18_Pro_zpspbohfqv7.jpg.html)

1. Is it necessary to upgrade the bios? It comes with the 2.1 version, I don't know if I have to upgrade it, the cartdridge is working OK, the 161 games too.

2. But when I use the 161 game cartdridge, the games always show japanese language (maybe this be caused by my NEO GEO japanese), Are there any option to change games to AES mode (console) and choose region? In case of NO, please tell me if putting a UNIBIOS on my NEO GEO AES will solve this issue.

Thanks a lot
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on December 01, 2015, 03:08:04 AM
1, 2.1 is the last stable version.
2. yes, you can put a unibios to work with 161 together.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: refcom on December 01, 2015, 03:04:53 PM
1, 2.1 is the last stable version.
2. yes, you can put a unibios to work with 161 together.

Many thanks

Other thing, Is it possible change MVS mode to console mode like in the UNIBIOS menu? (I mean, inside the Magickey menu, not in an external UNIBIOS)
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on December 08, 2015, 10:15:49 AM
i don't have 161 to test it ~sm-39.gif~
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Jon on December 18, 2015, 02:41:59 PM
Hi, I recently bought the Magic Key latest version (green)
I'm not getting any sound at all from it though. I have the 5v AES and have tried 3 different power supplies.

My AES works fine with regular AES games.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on December 21, 2015, 03:18:53 AM
5V AES is the first batch SNK console, have some issue, if you use the MVS converter you should use 5.5v-5.7v / 2-3A power adapter. make sure your adapters can match it.

and BTW ,i suggest you use pure alcohol to clean your MVS carts golden finger, to make sure the connection is good and stable.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: sTo0z on January 05, 2016, 03:32:58 AM
Hi Dr.neo,

I also have the problem that Jon has stated. I have the newest version of the MagicKey and absolutely no sound comes through. If I plug a normal AES game in the system, the sound plays fine.

I also have the 5V AES, and I saw your note about getting 5.5v-5.7v, but I'm not quite sure where to look for this? Can you recommend where to get one of these that will work properly with my NEO GEO?
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: refcom on January 06, 2016, 05:46:50 AM
i don't have 161 to test it ~sm-39.gif~

Thanks, anyway, I put UniBios 3.2 on my Neo Geo and works OK (pushing the black button of the converter before turn on the console)
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on January 06, 2016, 11:48:19 AM
good testing refcom  ~sm-78.gif~.gif
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on January 06, 2016, 03:55:44 PM
hi foster711
ok we make a guide for you  ~sm-51.gif~.gif

https://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,7842.0.html
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: sTo0z on January 08, 2016, 08:08:50 AM
Hi Dr.neo,

Thank you for the guide. I tried to use a screwdriver to push the contact points into a nice line, but that still did not resolve the sound issue for me. Can you please provide me a link to an example 5.5V~5.7V and with 2.5~3A output DC adapter that I should get?

Thank you!
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on January 08, 2016, 10:36:25 AM
ok,i'll try  ::sm-22.gif::
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on January 14, 2016, 09:31:17 PM
Hi Dr.neo,

Thank you for the guide. I tried to use a screwdriver to push the contact points into a nice line, but that still did not resolve the sound issue for me. Can you please provide me a link to an example 5.5V~5.7V and with 2.5~3A output DC adapter that I should get?

Thank you!

ok,now you can find it from here --- https://www.ic2005.com/shop/SNK-5V-DC-Power-Adapter.html
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: sTo0z on January 19, 2016, 09:38:11 PM
ok,now you can find it from here --- https://www.ic2005.com/shop/SNK-5V-DC-Power-Adapter.html

Thank you very much, hopefully this will resolve sound issue. :) 
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on January 19, 2016, 10:45:44 PM
i hope so.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: sTo0z on February 17, 2016, 11:23:23 PM
Unfortunately sound issue was not resolved with new power adapter. :(

Maybe I will try to clean and align pins one last time before I give up. :(
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on February 19, 2016, 12:36:42 PM
yes,need make sure without any connection issue are there,but if can't solve after all cleaning complete, you can send back and the shop will replace a new one for you,don't worry.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: sTo0z on July 20, 2016, 08:39:09 AM
Hello Dr.neo,

I have done my best over the last few months to attempt to remedy the sound issue.

I have tried several times to arrange the contact points to a straighter line,
I have tried several times to clean all contact surfaces properly.
I have even purchased the new power adapter you had recommended.

After such attempts, the cart boots more successful than before, and now there are no video glitches, but the sound issue remains.

Not once have I ever received even a single sound from using the MVS Magic Key :( Literally nothing, not even distortion or static, completely silent.

And I was able to confirm that a regular AES cart does play sound correctly.

What do you recommend next?

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: Dr.neo on July 20, 2016, 12:08:29 PM
how many MVS carts you have tried? they are original or copy?
Title: Re: New SNK ARCADE MVS Magic Key released!
Post by: zouzzz on July 21, 2016, 01:19:30 PM

That was the first test I made, I tried holding the button on boot (because that works fine for the 161-in-1 cart) but it did not work with Razion nor Gunlord. They still hang at the initial "Please wait" screen.
I tried with Razion and the 2016 version (green), same thing : "Please wait" screen.
I hope the 2016 version'll work with Kraut Buster.