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Offline kunocorp

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Re: Help I cant sace!
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2006, 06:48:10 AM »
I just tried the gst patcher with Trauma Center and it did not save. I dont what the hell is going on.
does the mK3 have a changeable battery, maybe that's the problem.

edit: ok I just tried some gba roms and they all saved fine, so it has to be the mk3. Is there anyway to use te battery in the neo flash cart to save my nds saves?
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Re: Help I cant sace!
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2006, 08:28:28 AM »
No, the actual magic key 3 is just the card that inserts into your ds, so there is no battery there.  The pass-thru device is used as the interface for the ds cartridge and sd card.  I'm assuming you tested all the contacts, so it seems like the mk3 is malfunctioning.

The battery in the flashcart is used primarily for GBA saving only (saves to the SRAM on the cart).  Since the NDS saves are stored on the magic key itself, and backed up to the SD card, the battery on the neoflash cart isn't going to help at all in that regard.

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Re: Help I cant save!
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2006, 08:31:04 AM »
I think you might want to appeal to wherever you bought the MK3 from to see if they'll give you a replacement.

oh and I fixed the name of the topic, sorry but it was bothering me :P

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Re: Help I cant save!
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2006, 08:37:12 AM »
I guess I'm screwed, I spent 150 on this cart, I wanted to buy another buy I'm going to consider all my options before I make another purchase. Thanks for all the support guys.


Update: I'm just going to use the gba_save feature from GST until I get A replacement.
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Re: Help I cant save!
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2006, 01:35:48 AM »
Actually theres a chance your not screwed. I took a look inside my MK3 today and there is a battery inside the unit. I'm not sure what it's used for but I'll post a pic of it later.

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Re: Help I cant save!
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2006, 06:01:52 AM »
hey angelfly,

Do you mean you took the pass-thru unit apart and there was a battery??  Or the actual mk3 card has a tiny battery itself (hard to believe since it's so thin)?

THanks for letting me know... I didn't know that.  I don't think anybody changes that battery, though, so I don't know what the exact purpose is...

BruceG 
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Re: Help I cant save!
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2006, 08:03:26 AM »
In the pass through theres a battery. I can't find my camera batteries so I can't take a pic of it but it's near the sd slot and it's very small like those hearing aid batteries.

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Re: Help I cant save!
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2006, 08:41:27 AM »
Hopefully Cory or someone can shed some light on this, I'd be interested in knowing myself if it has a battery that may or may not need changed.

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Re: Help I cant save!
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2006, 09:48:10 AM »
It has a battery that is one of the very few reliably rechargeable watch type cells. As with the Neo carts, the MK2/3 uses SRAM for the save data space since SRAM memory needs a constant current to retain data. Unlike the neo cart, the SRAM and battery combo in the MK2/3 seems much more reliable.

On a full charge these batteries can hold the data in SRAM from 5 days+ (perhaps much much longer, but 5 days was the last I checked). Unless it comes dead from factory it should not need to be replaced any time soon. Due to the nature of rechargeable Li batteries (and I am not certain with manese lithium batteries) it is possible these ones can become damaged if drained entirely.

I havent used my MK3 64 for a few weeks and it still retains 2.54V (according to the datasheet it should be 3.1V), the data still stays intact after 10 minutes. A DMM and a careful hand could tell you if your battery is bad (less than 2V or so would be needing a charge, less than .4V would be bad), but in this case I would look for an exchange if you have not had the MK for very long.

The battery is a Sanyo ML621 Magnese Lithium rechargeable battery (industrial Sanyo line) (PDF datasheet can be found here)
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Re: Help I cant save!
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2006, 10:37:59 AM »
I guess the next question would be how would you go about changing this battery, if necessary?? (sorry not an expert here, but it doesn't appear very straightforward to do)  Maybe it's not even designed for the user to change since it lasts so long?

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Re: Help I cant save!
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Re: Help I cant save!
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2006, 04:46:42 AM »
cool!  good job...

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Re: Help I cant save!
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2006, 03:10:11 PM »
As you can see from the pic, the battery itself is easy to change (it just slides out). Removing the case without damaging it too severely is a pain though (it is hot-glued along one side). Also, getting a replacement for an industrial grade rechargeable "watch cell" type battery may proove frustrating too (I have never seen these type of batteries for sale outside of sample lots or rarely Euro mailorder electronics shops).
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