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Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« on: March 30, 2006, 01:06:09 PM »
Hey guys, i just received my Neo Flash through Fed Ex, but im having problems installing it, i did not come with instructions, but only a CD. Can anyone guide me through the Installation process or provide me a link to where i can install my NeoFlash, thanks.

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2006, 03:08:58 PM »
Just in case you weren't aware, you didn't buy the latest neoflash product.  If you purchased the 1 gig set, that's a neoflash 1 gig cart + magic key 1.  The patcher is no longer supported (i.e. won't play more recent nds titles).

Assuming you have a compatible, older ds system, you use gst-patcher 3.1 in order to patch clean dumps, before burning them to your flashcart using an application called Neo Power Kit.  That patching program generates two files: one using a gba save and the other using a nds save.

The gba version stores the save on the flashcart itself.  However, it can be unreliable since save data may be corrupted (hardware problem that was never resolved). 

The nds version stores the save on the original ds cartridge you insert into the magic key unit.  However, you have to match the size of the save (for the rom you are running on the flashcart) to the save size used by the original ds cartridge.  It's more reliable, but can be a nuissance since you need to own several ds cartridges with varying save sizes, and swap them as needed.  This is one site that has the save sizes for different carts:

http://www.retrocovers.com/advanscene

Both these programs (Neo Power Kit and gst-patcher 3.1) can be obtained from this link (at the bottom):

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,875.0.html

The FAQ posts sub-forum has helpful guides (one for using Neo Power Kit) and troubleshooting tips.  Once you burn the patched-rom (either the gba save or the nds save), then you just connect your cart and magic key (with original ds cartridge inserted) to your ds...


If you are interested in the more current neoflash products, that would be magic key 2/3.  The FAQ I composed can be found here (including all the problematic areas since it's still being developed)

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,1529.0.html

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2006, 06:06:08 PM »
Aww i dont have the latest version, im a very big n00b at this, and well i didn't know, i wanted to burn Sonic Rush into my DS. Anyways i already have the patcher, i tried patching the game Sonic Rush, and it said to update the database, any help will be appreciated friend. Thank you.

Also may i ask why it is not supported anymore?
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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2006, 07:36:02 PM »
The current hardware being developed is mk3 ie. neomax and mk32006. .In that too the compatibility is low, but it is being supported. your mk1 is toooo old.

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2006, 07:58:28 PM »
So MK3 uses the Slim Loader 3 right? is there anyway to buy the other parts seperate and still make it work?

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2006, 09:30:29 PM »
Whoa Whoa-I say you are in great shape.

The 1g cart is the only way(right now,at least)to run some of the larger roms,and also probably the least-owned piece of equipment for NEO.

I say-get the MK3 2006(under a hundred bucks),and you will be one of few people with the highest possible compatibility.

I imagine you were not looking to spend more cash,and I don't work for anybody here(i.e.-not trying to sell you anything),but if I had a friend looking to invest,that(1g NEO linker,2006 MK3)is what I would suggest to them.
I think the reason that that is not offered as a package is that Dr. NEO is really trying to decrease the hardware required through software.

But right now,it's the way to go,and you are 3/4ths there already.
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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2006, 08:13:19 AM »
Well, you're in the same position as I was. Buy an MK2 or 3, and it comes only with the NDS slot part, which is all you need. Then, you can flash roms to an SD card, and install the latest Menu software onto your flashcart.

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2006, 08:39:16 AM »
Thank you for the help, i will buy the the MK3 so i can get my NDS working, thanks for the help guys. Can anyone recommend a site to buy this from?

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2006, 09:16:27 AM »
Divineo u.s.
I hope you got the 1g from divineo cn.(100.00 less than divineo u.s.)
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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2006, 11:51:59 AM »
Yeah, Divineo is where I purchased my neo max system (haven't heard anything negative about them)

As Roger said, it depends on how much money you are willing to invest..  You have a 1 gigabit cart, which is compatible with the current mk2/mk3 technology (and is presently the only way to run 1 gig commercial roms at full speed using neoflash products).  Buying a separate mk2/mk3 unit will give you access to the latest menu software...

If you want to return the neoflash linker set, there are numerous options:

There is a less expensive NeoMax kit (using the latest mk3 technology -- the main drawback here is the cart is only 512 Mb, and the mk3 itself has only 128 Mb internal flash space -- not very useful, considering most commercial roms are over 128 Mb.)

If you want another less expensive alternative, there is mk3 2006 as Roger said (using a neokey and a mk3 512).  The main problem here is that the neo-key isn't an ideal substitute for a regular flashcart..  A neo-key can't hold much at all, and you can't play gba roms on your ds with a neo-key only (i.e. you need a regular flashcart)

Finally, for other non-neoflash products, there are viable alternatives to neoflash (supercard being very good value and m3 as well).  If you want to run roms, these products are very good at that, with high compatibilty levels as well...

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2006, 12:35:51 PM »
So the only i need to buy is a MK3 and i can use it with my 1024Mb flash cart? I just want to know which to buy. I already have all the accessories i think i need to this.

Slim Loader 3
Neo Flash 1024mb
USB Cables

so i just need MK3 and it wil work fine? I already know how to make the menu on the cart.

Thanks again guys for the help.

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2006, 02:31:54 PM »
Whoa Whoa-I say you are in great shape.

The 1g cart is the only way(right now,at least)to run some of the larger roms,and also probably the least-owned piece of equipment for NEO.

I say-get the MK3 2006(under a hundred bucks),and you will be one of few people with the highest possible compatibility.

I imagine you were not looking to spend more cash,and I don't work for anybody here(i.e.-not trying to sell you anything),but if I had a friend looking to invest,that(1g NEO linker,2006 MK3)is what I would suggest to them.
I think the reason that that is not offered as a package is that Dr. NEO is really trying to decrease the hardware required through software.

But right now,it's the way to go,and you are 3/4ths there already.

My friend can you give me a link to where i can get this MK3 2006?

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2006, 06:29:58 PM »
http://ic2005.com

You can buy all the Neo-Flash products from there.

Or go here to see all the shops
http://www.neoflash.com/shop.htm

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2006, 07:27:40 PM »
Im sorry about the last post, i can actually buy, but in the view for my problem which is i bought the old version of neo flash, can i just buy the Magic Key 3 and use it with my 1bg neo flash?

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Re: Instruction on Installing Neo Flash 1Gb
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2006, 07:29:41 PM »
ok most people with the 1 Gig GBA flash cart that have the MK1 do buy the MK3. Thats because the allready have all the stuff they need.

You Can buy a MK3 from the shops above  ;)