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Offline capedavenger1

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Cannot Save Games At All
« on: April 04, 2006, 07:24:24 PM »
I Have the Neo Max 8 gig kit:

Magic key 3 64M+32 Mzip
512 GBA Flash Card
Slimloader III
1 GB SD card and USB SD Card reader/writer

For the life of me I cannot save a game and keep it saved,
what am I doing wrong?
Ive changed the battery to another one that was shipped with the system
Im using the neomax 1.7.

Im tring to save a game in Metroid zero mission, if I shut system off after saving and load game again, no saves are there.

Is there something else I can try, is there something in the menus that I can do? the DS does recognize my 1 gig SD card, I did notice when I flashed my few roms with 1.7 is didn't show anything in the SMS windows below the roms, just for the sake of trying, I also went into the SMS/SD save manager and added each of the same roms there too...

can I get some step by step help here, I don't think I got 2 dead batteries..
While I'm waiting for a reply, I'll even try the 3rd battery....

Also, if I set the DS up with the neo max 1.7 (like I already did) what is the signifigants of the mk menu 0.4a? can that be used in conjunction with the current setup? at first I followed the main instructions that has your system boot up to only play NDS games and gives the ability to flash from the SD card to the MK3 or the GBA flash card, I had fit DIGDUG on the mk3 and got it to run, but how do you delete things from the MK3? can I with my current setup with the neomax 1.7? Please help.




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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2006, 08:12:43 PM »
I have a Digital multi metter and even went so far as to check the amps on my battierys all I can figure out is the programs that burn the games on have shoty   save abilty,also it might could be the USB port I am going to try to repalce the batt with one I know has more power in it then after I test it I am going to put the slimloader on my usb card all byitself and see if that dont help it even will run it off a powered hub to make sure its data and power flow are good...if non of this works...its probly my slim loader3 or flash cart...altho at these prices I think they qauilty test them more....least I hope so.....if I find anythign out I will post here and in my gba/gbc thread this is mind numbing ><

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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2006, 04:08:17 PM »
I Have the Neo Max 8 gig kit:

Magic key 3 64M+32 Mzip
512 GBA Flash Card
Slimloader III
1 GB SD card and USB SD Card reader/writer

For the life of me I cannot save a game and keep it saved,
what am I doing wrong?
Ive changed the battery to another one that was shipped with the system
Im using the neomax 1.7.

Im tring to save a game in Metroid zero mission, if I shut system off after saving and load game again, no saves are there.

Is there something else I can try, is there something in the menus that I can do? the DS does recognize my 1 gig SD card, I did notice when I flashed my few roms with 1.7 is didn't show anything in the SMS windows below the roms, just for the sake of trying, I also went into the SMS/SD save manager and added each of the same roms there too...

can I get some step by step help here, I don't think I got 2 dead batteries..
While I'm waiting for a reply, I'll even try the 3rd battery....

Also, if I set the DS up with the neo max 1.7 (like I already did) what is the signifigants of the mk menu 0.4a? can that be used in conjunction with the current setup? at first I followed the main instructions that has your system boot up to only play NDS games and gives the ability to flash from the SD card to the MK3 or the GBA flash card, I had fit DIGDUG on the mk3 and got it to run, but how do you delete things from the MK3? can I with my current setup with the neomax 1.7? Please help.






It is possible that all the batteries included with the system are dead (maybe old stock sitting on the shelves for a long time -- I don't know).  If you have a voltmeter to test, that would be preferable in this case.

It's odd that you mention that the roms don't show up in the SMS window in Neomax.  I think the last time I tried it, they all showed up in the window, right after burning them (or at least when you re-detect the cart)...

The neomax and menu loaders are entirely separate programs.  The neomax loader should run gba roms well enough, but the nds support is probably fairly limited.  The menu software should run nds roms much better (get the latest version .6 beta 2 -- it will allow you to format/delete the flashcart/mk3 space as well)

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« Last Edit: April 05, 2006, 04:11:21 PM by bruceg »

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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2006, 06:40:32 PM »
its not the battieries trust me ><
mine only saves half the time for Wario land 4 and everything else saves once and and when I recheck the way I burnt it it donset save anymore >< I am starting to feel liek this a rip off ;_;
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All I want is tog et GBA and mabye GBC games to run on the DS at least GBA games with full save I can live with 1 game 1 save a cart...I would gladly swap my Neo flash 512 kit for a GBA one ><
BTW is there anything thats nice stable and mabye has multi GBA rom support?
« Last Edit: April 05, 2006, 06:52:49 PM by ZippyDSMlee »

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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2006, 06:52:42 PM »
There are bugs remaining in the neomax software, which could be contributing to your problems.

He should get the entries to at least show up in the sms window, though -- that happened everytime I tested.

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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2006, 06:55:18 PM »
for me the games show up and soemtimes black/white screen crash and I have to reburn them..its odd 0-o
I am haveing more issues with saveing that anythign else...and it seems neo power kit has a high chance of gettign soemthign to work 0-o

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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2006, 07:24:25 PM »
It seems you have tried all the viable programs out there (Neo Power kit is fine, if you don't mind the lack of SMS support).  And Neomax (I assume you've also tried the XG2Pro software) is supposed to be more stable, but apparently not in your particular case.

Since Neomax is being discontinued, I hope the Neo Ultra will add support for all the older products out there, and provide a more stable, common framework (with fewer bugs).

BruceG
« Last Edit: April 05, 2006, 07:26:09 PM by bruceg »

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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2006, 07:52:46 PM »
its not the battieries trust me ><


Maybe batteries are not your problem-but it has solved a lot of other peoples issues.
That SMS thing.....
I'd at least try the batteries...
You can drain them handling them(I did).

You seem to know a lot,though........ ;)

BTW-I have a lot af issues saving as well,so I "test" a lot,hoping to impact the software.I've not reached a good"playing zone"myself,sorry for the hard time.

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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2006, 07:59:26 PM »
Bruce-related side note-
I've still never gotten Neo-Max(software) to cooperate with the Neo-Key,NPK still seems to be the best option for it.
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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2006, 05:57:09 AM »
I have even put a Cmoc bat in it and its a new one,plus I have a voltmeter to test the button batts,mabye thiers soemthign wrong with the flash card

the loader has its owen isses it hates low power USB and it can ahte being on a USB card with more than 1 thing on it,its not like you can find cheap flash cards ><

I think I am haveing more HArdware issues than software burning a game is 70-90% about a 2 or 3 in ten it wont take,or boots funny and have to reburn it,then  we have the GBA "rom" itself alot of downloads could be messed up enough where its not oging to want to work in the thing,then  ,it seems they need to know the main save types,nd mabye rewrite how the rom handles its saveing so it can be more compaitble and have the hardware supoort it better fickle batts aside I have gotten 2 or 3 games to save just not the ones I realy want to paly.its like emluation for the DS soem thgins work some dont *L*
Is there any flash system for the GBA that has stable multi rom saveing support?
or is this kinda how the whole GBA flash works its fickle and annoying?
I am glad I got this used and not at the 160$ price..it should be 80 or so untill its stable then i'll be happy to pay 200 *L*

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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2006, 06:15:59 AM »
Just checked a 512 Neo-cart with SL3 and SL4,with Neo-Max 1.9,seems fine.

I think you may have identified your problem.
Neo equipment(IMO)is easy to abuse,if you are not careful,and can be broken.
Probably,you should have gotten it new.

I see a lot of people having better luck with the back USB ports,have you tried that?
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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2006, 07:24:14 AM »
rogerpoco
I wish there was some way I could send it in and have the bad stuff repalced ><  I mean new its 200$

Ok heres what I have learned with the slim loader it will not worlk on nearly ALL motherboard USB it MIGHT work off a powered HUB ,it runs BEST off a USB card with NOTHING else on the card.

I got Casilivna COTM to save once useing NPK or NMax I dont recall I can get Wario land to save in NPK but rarely with NMax,I got Zone of enders to save whitch suprised me NPK dose work well(Z.O.E is enar pefrect it only lacks aera and splash damage ^0^)
Metroid zero mission didnt save with NPK and it wont get past the opening useing N-Max mabye I just need to burn it again 0-o

I wonder about the qauilty of the chips they use in the flasher I am thinking that 10-20% of all might be bad or iffy then the rest are ok ...mmmm I have been haveing mobo troubles of late looking for a new one and good god it seems the motherboard manufators are doign the same makeing stuff that has a 30-40% fail rate you get it replced and the next one fails >< uhg if the prices were not so high it wouldnt be so bad ><

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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2006, 07:39:50 AM »
Hey,one more thing I'll check-
The battery deal helped someone else on a couple of threads over,so that helped convince me it was my problem,originally.

HOWEVER-at the same time I changed the battery,I also got a couple of new sl3's(ordered 2 1g NEO-Carts-hehe),and I think my first was stinky.
I'll dig it out tomorrow and see if it will function.
Maybe it's just your slimloader.
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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2006, 07:42:48 AM »
Ture it could the SL-3 its cranky of late only likeing a certain way I plug it in,a SL-3 shouldnt be much to repalce should it?
I mean if  the flash cart was bad it would work right constently right?
this is so iffy it could be the loader
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Re: Cannot Save Games At All
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2006, 04:12:58 PM »
Now this is driveing me nuts I have all the USB ports on the back of the mobo filled and the SL3 on a powered USB hub and its working fine 0-o
And this is on the USB 6 foot exstion cable that I had never opened till today it was not working right on it this after noon when I put it on the USB card 0-o
I mean I have seen fickle devices but whats up with this? 0-o
I have gone crazy!!
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